Difference between lesser platinum & butter

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Originally Posted by Miko

However, you could consider them the same morph because they produce a blue eyed lucy, just a bit different.

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It makes them part of the same complex, not the same morph. mojave sits on the same locus as lesser/butter/russo/ect. however butter and lesser look the same by themselves and in every combo produced so far.

wow I learn something new everyday.....so I just bought a male butter that I am supposed to be getting in today. and I also just bought a female lesser that will be coming next week. but they are basically the same morph? so no point in breeding them together....and if I did they wouldn't be supers would they?:weirdface

hmm...ok while we're on this topic can someone please give some examples of what you would cross with a butter/lesser? if you crossed a butter/lesser X spider what would you get?....a butter bee? and a butter/lesser X pinstripe? now that I have one of each....I'm not sure what to breed each of them with.:confused:

I live down the street from the Bells, didn't realize they produced the Butter, cool! Thanks for the input!

Hi,

It would definately be a super - a blue eyed leucistic. That is the result of mating most of the combinations of genes in the BEL complex - but they can all look slightly different. The super mojave has colour on its head for example

http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/super-lesser/

And this is a butter x spider;

http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/butter-bee/

And this is a lesser bee - as you can see there is a lot of variation;

http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/lesser-bee/

And this is a butter x pinstripe;

http://www.worldofballpythons.com/mo...ter-pinstripe/

And I personally love these two;

http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/black-butter/

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y10...z/_MG_3953.jpg


dr del

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Originally Posted by tikigator

so no point in breeding them together....and if I did they wouldn't be supers would they?

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Lesser/Lesser = BEL
Butter/Butter = BEL
Lesser/Butter = BEL

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if you crossed a butter/lesser X spider what would you get?

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Lesserbee or Butterbee, both also the same thing

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butter/lesser X pinstripe?

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Kingpin

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Originally Posted by dr del

Hi,

It would definately be a super - a blue eyed leucistic. That is the result of mating most of the combinations of genes in the BEL complex - but they can all look slightly different. The super mojave has colour on its head for example


http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y10...z/_MG_3953.jpg


dr del

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Wow that website is awesome!! Thank you!! That last link of the group is unbelievable! I am excited that I have some female spiders and a pinstrip to breed with my male butter! And now that I have a female lesser I am try for a BEL! coooooool!!!! :banana:

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Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser

Lesser/Lesser = BEL
Butter/Butter = BEL
Lesser/Butter = BEL


Lesserbee or Butterbee, both also the same thing


Kingpin

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Great clarification, many thanks!

Great thread :gj:

JK

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Originally Posted by tikigator

hmm...ok while we're on this topic can someone please give some examples of what you would cross with a butter/lesser? if you crossed a butter/lesser X spider what would you get?....a butter bee? and a butter/lesser X pinstripe? now that I have one of each....I'm not sure what to breed each of them with.:confused:

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Here's a couple examples.

Lesser X Butter ~ Notice how you can't tell them apart :P
http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/a...r/PICT2694.jpg

Lesser X Bumblebee
(he pulls it off rather well I think)
http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/a...e/PICT4599.jpg

Lesser X Yellowbelly
http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/a...e/PICT3536.jpg

Lesser X Albino
http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/a...o/PICT2813.jpg

There's lots of good choices to breed lessers and butters with :gj:

I don't mean to be argumentative, but the lesser is the darker one in this picture right?

Lesser X Butter ~ Notice how you can't tell them apart :P
http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/a...r/PICT2694.jpg

Really?

Which one is this then?

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/909/elam04.jpg

Or this one?

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/5...lelesser03.jpg

No cheating. :P


dr del

Without cheating I would call that a lesser, because of the darkness around the top of the back. But butters and lessers are the same!