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  • 03-02-2025, 11:54 AM
    Lord Sorril
    Re: Snakes and Stones
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bogertophis View Post
    Sorry to hear about your job situation, L.S.

    Thanks! I will refrain from commenting on the value of FDA regulation as it is now a political issue (apparently). :rolleyes:

    Photo #481
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ked_ethwsw.jpg
    BP = Enchi/Het Clown
    The stones are odds and ends from all over the United States.
  • 03-04-2025, 11:12 AM
    Lord Sorril
    Re: Snakes and Stones
    Photo #482
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ked_dzr9ou.jpg
    66% Het Lavender Albino/50% Het Piebald Ball python with a chunk of Prairie Agate from South Dakota, USA.

    This ball python photo is the last of the group of hatchlings I sold in 2024.
    I have aprox. 20 more holdbacks I need to photograph for my 2024 set. :)
  • 03-13-2025, 11:51 AM
    Lord Sorril
    Re: Snakes and Stones
    Photo #483
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ked_ymqrkh.jpg
    Pastel Piebald (5/5) with some larger pieces of Montana Agate.

    Note: My gf said she didn't like the silver dollar I use for scale...so she told me not to use it-lol.
    She bought me a snake coin for my 2025 photo set. Pictures to follow.
  • 03-13-2025, 02:29 PM
    Bogertophis
    Re: Snakes and Stones
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lord Sorril View Post
    Photo #483
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ked_ymqrkh.jpg
    Pastel Piebald (5/5) with some larger pieces of Montana Agate.

    Note: My gf said she didn't like the silver dollar I use for scale...so she told me not to use it-lol.
    She bought me a snake coin for my 2025 photo set. Pictures to follow.

    For just a second there that picture made me think of a strange-colored sea turtle swimming towards me? :D
  • 03-15-2025, 12:33 PM
    Lord Sorril
    Re: Snakes and Stones
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bogertophis View Post
    For just a second there that picture made me think of a strange-colored sea turtle swimming towards me? :D

    Wow! Now that you mention it...It totally does look like a sea turtle! :)
  • 03-15-2025, 12:55 PM
    Lord Sorril
    Re: Snakes and Stones
    I went to a super pricey upscale store in Worcester, Massachusetts the other day: Called Seed to Stem. The specialize in: plants, stones, and taxidermy: I could have spent all day looking at everything in there...but I was paying $5/hr for parking-and I'm a cheapskate...so I snapped a bunch of photos to look at later. Unfortunately I did not bring my dedicated camera because I was antique-hunting with my gf...so I was carrying my UV torch instead. The cell phone camera really fell short in comparison to my trusty Olympus. Regardless: Here a bunch of photos.

    Note: Everything in the store was pricey, (with the exception of some of the dinosaur bones which were about market rate).
    I did buy a variegated African Violet for my mother, and my gf bought an unusual species of Leopard Lily she did not have.

    I could have arranged these photos better, but I spent so much time trying to fix the blur that I've had enough lol...:)

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  • 03-15-2025, 03:53 PM
    Bogertophis
    Not a fan of taxidermy (or snake bones either, since I doubt any of them passed from natural causes) but that's a real "eye candy" store with those beautiful arrangements & merchandise. Thanks for sharing- I really like that pottery piece with the snake skeleton painted on the side, but I'm content with the large Native American pot I have with orange, brown & amber rattlesnakes & other designs painted on it. There's just too many cool things to fit in my house anyway. That's the kind of store that's dangerous...even if I don't agree with everything they're selling, many things (including the plants) are too appealing to pass up.
  • 03-18-2025, 11:19 PM
    Lord Sorril
    Re: Snakes and Stones
    Here is the coin that my partner got me for my 2025 photo set (assuming breeding season goes well):
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ked_rpkck8.jpg
    A bit larger than my other coins:
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ked_pfoghy.jpg
    Example:
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ked_skzxbv.jpg
    Pastel Piebalds. :)
  • 03-22-2025, 08:37 PM
    Lord Sorril
    Re: Snakes and Stones
    Photo #484
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ked_jq7gn2.jpg
    Assorted stones (mostly Mid-west/West Coast USA) with a Spider/Het Piebald.

    Breeders Note: Matings are going well and follicles are maturing. Several of my females have stopped eating and I'm probably about 6-8 weeks from seeing my first clutch of eggs for the 2025 season.

    Fun fact: I changed all of my ball pythons water a few days ago, it took 28 gallons. :)
  • 03-23-2025, 08:24 AM
    Homebody
    Re: Snakes and Stones
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lord Sorril View Post
    Fun fact: I changed all of my ball pythons water a few days ago, it took 28 gallons. :)

    Boom! That's the sound of my mind being blown.
  • 03-27-2025, 12:46 PM
    MichPlat
    Re: Snakes and Stones
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lord Sorril View Post
    Photo #484
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ked_jq7gn2.jpg
    Assorted stones (mostly Mid-west/West Coast USA) with a Spider/Het Piebald.

    Breeders Note: Matings are going well and follicles are maturing. Several of my females have stopped eating and I'm probably about 6-8 weeks from seeing my first clutch of eggs for the 2025 season.

    Fun fact: I changed all of my ball pythons water a few days ago, it took 28 gallons. :)

    How many snakes ???!!!!’


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  • 03-27-2025, 01:14 PM
    Homebody
    Re: Snakes and Stones
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MichPlat View Post
    How many snakes ???!!!!’

    At once pint per snake, that would equal 224 snakes.
  • 03-27-2025, 09:37 PM
    Lord Sorril
    Re: Snakes and Stones
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Homebody View Post
    Boom! That's the sound of my mind being blown.

    Hahaha, I usually change about 12 gallons/week. I recently bumped my ambient from 80 to 82F (to aid follicle development)-so I figured it was a good time to change all the water at the same time.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MichPlat View Post
    How many snakes ???!!!!’

    I don't really count them. The number fluctuates based on the time of year. While I do have ~50 breed age females in mating right now: I'm only using a handful of males this season...if one is 'not in the mood' that will take out a chunk of my potential clutches.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Homebody View Post
    At once pint per snake, that would equal 224 snakes.

    That is if I only used one pint per water bowl. I have three sizes of water bowl: Small, Large, and XL. All of my adults/breeders have XL water bowls so they can completely submerge/float around while in shed/gravid: I'm definitely using more than one pint in these bowls...:)

    Photo #485
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ked_igvrk7.jpg
    Pastel/Lesser/Het Gravel or YB with some assorted stones.
    With a quick check I can spot: Petrified Wood, Agate (various), Atlantis Wonder Jasper, Brecciated Jasper, Red Jasper, and Quartz. :)
  • 03-28-2025, 08:26 AM
    Homebody
    Re: Snakes and Stones
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lord Sorril View Post
    I don't really count them. The number fluctuates based on the time of year. While I do have ~50 breed age females in mating right now: I'm only using a handful of males this season...if one is 'not in the mood' that will take out a chunk of my potential clutches.

    I had a little fun imagining what counting snakes is like for a large breeder. For us hobbyists it's simple, but I imagine large breeders have many snakes in various states of development. Do you count eggs? No, but what if they've pipped? A large breeder would also own snakes to varying degrees. Do you count snakes you've sold but you're waiting to ship? What if you've only taken a deposit? What about the snakes you have on loan for a breeding project? What about the snakes you've loaned out? Depending on the answers to these questions and many more that I can't imagine, you would arrive at widely different totals. So, I don't blame you for not knowing how many snakes you have. For a large breeder, it's not a simple question.
  • 03-28-2025, 08:40 AM
    Malum Argenteum
    I'm in the 'I don't count them' camp, usually. When someone asks, I'll usually tally up what I consider 'permanent residents' -- animals that are breeding stock, or those that I have no intention of selling (pets, retired breeders that are too tired to sell into the pet market or that I have some attachment to). Sometimes I count holdbacks, although I'll hold back extras for a couple years just to see how they turn out so I don't always count those.

    I don't count number of animals sold, either, and only keep track of dollars for tax purposes.

    I find it interesting to see how other breeders count, or whether they do at all.
  • 03-28-2025, 11:16 AM
    Bogertophis
    As you said, Homebody, snake tallies can vary a great deal. I only have a "few" retired snakes now, but years back, & in a much bigger house complete with my "rodent ranch" for $ support & ample sustenance, I had up to about 150 snakes for a while, when some of them had offspring (that's counting hatchlings). My more "permanent" number at the time (& for some years) was 85-90 snakes. I took in rescues: some were unwanted pets, but mostly native locals -mostly of the rattling persuasion- needing relocated or needing homes if not deemed likely to survive.

    I was only half-joking when I called my house a B & B (bed & breakfast) for wayward rattlesnakes- mostly in the summer time, but I never knew- I got a call for a young speckled found in someone's woodpile one winter- I learned so much from working with him, & he was a real cutie. Believe me, 85-90 'regulars' is enough to keep one busy...especially since I had a job & other things going on too. When I'd do a snake program, I was always asked how many snakes I had, then there usually one wanting to know (with a gasp!) where I lived...seeking reassurance that I wasn't their neighbor. :rofl: (I had no close neighbors & I really miss that house!)
  • 03-28-2025, 07:30 PM
    Lord Sorril
    Re: Snakes and Stones
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Homebody View Post
    I had a little fun imagining what counting snakes is like for a large breeder. For us hobbyists it's simple, but I imagine large breeders have many snakes in various states of development. Do you count eggs?.

    I wouldn't consider myself a 'large' breeder. Not sure what the criteria for that would be...

    I do count eggs, and I count clutches...it all good data to determine if I am 'on track' with my breeding goals or not.
    I do keep an inordinate amount of holdbacks and then gradually sell them off as I watch their color shift and/or notice less desirable behavioral patterns emerge.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Malum Argenteum View Post
    I'm in the 'I don't count them' camp, usually. When someone asks, I'll usually tally up what I consider 'permanent residents' -- animals that are breeding stock, or those that I have no intention of selling (pets, retired breeders that are too tired to sell into the pet market or that I have some attachment to). Sometimes I count holdbacks, although I'll hold back extras for a couple years just to see how they turn out so I don't always count those.

    I don't count number of animals sold, either, and only keep track of dollars for tax purposes.

    I find it interesting to see how other breeders count, or whether they do at all.

    I keep some basic statistics. I've been using my Snakes and Stones photos to provide me a bit of a historical record.
    Money is not really a concern for me, and dealing with large numbers of Hets/Possible Hets (which I often sell as 'Normals'): I'm fine operating consistently at a modest loss. :)

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bogertophis View Post
    As you said, Homebody, snake tallies can vary a great deal. I only have a "few" retired snakes now, but years back, & in a much bigger house complete with my "rodent ranch" for $ support & ample sustenance, I had up to about 150 snakes for a while, when some of them had offspring (that's counting hatchlings). My more "permanent" number at the time (& for some years) was 85-90 snakes. I took in rescues: some were unwanted pets, but mostly native locals -mostly of the rattling persuasion- needing relocated or needing homes if not deemed likely to survive.

    I was only half-joking when I called my house a B & B (bed & breakfast) for wayward rattlesnakes- mostly in the summer time, but I never knew- I got a call for a young speckled found in someone's woodpile one winter- I learned so much from working with him, & he was a real cutie. Believe me, 85-90 'regulars' is enough to keep one busy...especially since I had a job & other things going on too. When I'd do a snake program, I was always asked how many snakes I had, then there usually one wanting to know (with a gasp!) where I lived...seeking reassurance that I wasn't their neighbor. :rofl: (I had no close neighbors & I really miss that house!)

    Neat! When you had the rattlesnakes: What sort of enclosures did you have them in? I built all my ball python enclosures custom, but I couldn't imagine what size and design I would need for a rattlesnake...

    My neighbors do not live close enough to see in my windows to my snake rooms (2nd floor of my house), however one of my neighbors mentioned she had 'noticed' unusual activity through the window (aka she was using binoculars). I just smiled and mentioned that she must have *really good* eyesight...she paused and then did not pursue that line of questioning any further. :)
  • 03-28-2025, 07:35 PM
    Lord Sorril
    Re: Snakes and Stones
    Photo #486
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ked_pk7pvh.jpg
    Enchi/Het Clown
    Stones from multiple sources including: Africa/Brazil/India/Madagascar/Mexico/All across the USA :)
  • 03-28-2025, 09:18 PM
    Bogertophis
    Re: Snakes and Stones
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lord Sorril View Post
    ...
    Neat! When you had the rattlesnakes: What sort of enclosures did you have them in? I built all my ball python enclosures custom, but I couldn't imagine what size and design I would need for a rattlesnake...

    My neighbors do not live close enough to see in my windows to my snake rooms (2nd floor of my house), however one of my neighbors mentioned she had 'noticed' unusual activity through the window (aka she was using binoculars). I just smiled and mentioned that she must have *really good* eyesight...she paused and then did not pursue that line of questioning any further. :)

    I kept my rattlesnakes in large glass tanks (aquariums, designed to hold the weight of water, are very hard to break, unlike "glass terrariums") with tops I built myself out of wood frames with wire mesh ("hardware cloth"), & on the 4 corners of the tops I installed eye bolts, & on the wood cabinets the tanks sat on was a chain with a snap bolt (like a dog leash) that effectively "locked" the top onto the cabinets underneath. Even Fish & Game was fine with my security, cleanliness & good care. (I had a home check for a "Detrimental species" permit for some non-local rattlesnakes that I ended up with.) I much prefer to work with hots from overhead, not from the front.

    Never had a problem, but my methods were my methods. :cool: My rattlesnakes were throughout my house too (including my bedroom) & not locked in a snake room, but without kids around I never felt it was any kind of safety issue. Especially since I didn't work them with hooks, where they might slip off & get loose. I made "shift cages" for them- it was much less stress for all concerned, &
    I could even safely bathe them with the way my design worked. When I took in some rattlesnakes previously kept by others, they usually stunk from having been kept in filthy cages, & they actually appeared to enjoy a bath, but they were also clearly surprised by it. :D
  • 03-29-2025, 09:33 PM
    Lord Sorril
    Re: Snakes and Stones
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bogertophis View Post
    My rattlesnakes were throughout my house too (including my bedroom) & not locked in a snake room, but without kids around I never felt it was any kind of safety issue.

    When I first read this: I imagined you had rattlesnakes 'throughout your house'...a rattlesnake under the fridge..a rattlesnake in the bathtub...a rattlesnake on the kitchen table...rattlesnakes everywhere just chillin' out-waiting for their next meal... ;)
  • 03-29-2025, 09:35 PM
    Lord Sorril
    Re: Snakes and Stones
    Photo #487
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ked_jgfb6n.jpg
    Tumbled Sandstone (dry) with a Pastel Clown.
    I could've done a better job 'polishing' these stones (so they look wet), but, I don't like scuffing up my vibe bowl (which tends to happen...).
    I've also produced Pastel Clowns with super bright yellow...this is not one of them... :hmm:
  • 03-29-2025, 11:35 PM
    Bogertophis
    Re: Snakes and Stones
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lord Sorril View Post
    When I first read this: I imagined you had rattlesnakes 'throughout your house'...a rattlesnake under the fridge..a rattlesnake in the bathtub...a rattlesnake on the kitchen table...rattlesnakes everywhere just chillin' out-waiting for their next meal... ;)

    :rofl:That would make for a fun photo-shoot, but a little awkward for everyday living. I just meant that I've never been a fan of having all snakes in a "snake room", not even for hots- & I had many tanks in every room except the kitchen, laundry room & bathrooms.

    Funny thing, when I first found that house for sale, the previous owners were into rocks- tumbling them, cracking big piles of geodes in the yard, & all that, & it was easy to picture myself living there because they had glass cases everywhere too, only they were full of rocks instead of snakes. :D I've never had a rattler (or any other hot) get loose in my house- I'm rather into self-preservation, & definitely not pain. ;)

    By having snakes spread out in a house, it also makes it much harder for diseases to spread. I once had a visit from the head snake keeper @ the L.A. Zoo that commented to that effect too. And I knew a few ppl in the herp society that used banks of cages, & sooner or later, they had a terrible time with things wiping out many of their animals. I will always favor glass tanks- they work for me.

    I still have the signs I used to have posted on that place: "Rattlesnake on Duty", & "Dead End" (with a picture of a coiled rattlesnake aimed at you, haha)
    No one ever broke in though...I can't understand it?
  • 03-31-2025, 10:24 PM
    Lord Sorril
    Re: Snakes and Stones
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bogertophis View Post
    Funny thing, when I first found that house for sale, the previous owners were into rocks- tumbling them, cracking big piles of geodes in the yard, & all that, & it was easy to picture myself living there because they had glass cases everywhere too, only they were full of rocks instead of snakes. :D

    I wish those were the previous owners of my house! No geodes here: My previous home owner(s) were really into chopping down trees on the property to feed their wood stove. My entire house was filled with soot and the outside of the house was terribly dirty from years of burning. The guy who I hired to power-wash the exterior said it was 'the dirtiest' he had ever seen-and asked if he could post photos online... I also had to dig up and load two 16 yard dumpsters full of tree stumps from the yard...good times...

    Of course I bear no ill sentiment towards the former owners of my property and their poor upkeep. If they hadn't abused and then abandoned it-I never could have bought it.
    All my hard work and effort converts into $'s someday-if I ever decide to sell it. :)
  • 03-31-2025, 10:33 PM
    Lord Sorril
    Re: Snakes and Stones
    I try to match rocks as best as I can, but sometimes I just have too many different types-so I just use colors.
    Below is 'yellow' and 'red'. :)

    Photo #488
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ked_hx0fpe.jpg
    Stones from across the globe.
    Ball Python = Axanthic (VPI)/Pastel/Spider/Het Orange Ghost

    Note:
    I missed my Axanthic breeding goal last year (2024) with a 1/8 chance. This was not unexpected.
    With the my next round of breeders-if all goes well for 2025: My odds will be slightly better than 50/50 for the season.
    If I fail in 2025....my odds in 2026 will be about 95%.
    Good things come to those who wait...:)
  • 04-02-2025, 05:42 PM
    Bogertophis
    Re: Snakes and Stones
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lord Sorril View Post
    I wish those were the previous owners of my house! No geodes here: My previous home owner(s) were really into chopping down trees on the property to feed their wood stove. My entire house was filled with soot and the outside of the house was terribly dirty from years of burning. The guy who I hired to power-wash the exterior said it was 'the dirtiest' he had ever seen-and asked if he could post photos online... I also had to dig up and load two 16 yard dumpsters full of tree stumps from the yard...good times...

    Of course I bear no ill sentiment towards the former owners of my property and their poor upkeep. If they hadn't abused and then abandoned it-I never could have bought it.
    All my hard work and effort converts into $'s someday-if I ever decide to sell it. :)

    I had a good job but I bought that custom-built house very cheaply because the owners got spooked after a large earthquake (So. California) & they moved out of state. No one else was looking for a house just then either, so it sat a while & got very affordable. 4 car+ garage with a bathroom, laundry sink & many built-in cabinets, & a view for miles...OMG, it was love at first sight. The fenced 3 acre horse-zoned property sloped, but they did extensive red-rock terracing...I couldn't believe they wanted to leave all that just because of a little shaking. There was no damage at all there. I miss all the desert plants too- mature flowering ocotillos & an enormous saguaro cactus (not native there) as tall as the roof overhang. I definitely made $ when I sold it some years later, as will you, for all your trouble. ;)
  • 04-02-2025, 09:13 PM
    Lord Sorril
    Re: Snakes and Stones
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bogertophis View Post
    I had a good job but I bought that custom-built house very cheaply because the owners got spooked after a large earthquake (So. California) & they moved out of state. No one else was looking for a house just then either, so it sat a while & got very affordable. 4 car+ garage with a bathroom, laundry sink & many built-in cabinets, & a view for miles...OMG, it was love at first sight. The fenced 3 acre horse-zoned property sloped, but they did extensive red-rock terracing...I couldn't believe they wanted to leave all that just because of a little shaking. There was no damage at all there. I miss all the desert plants too- mature flowering ocotillos & an enormous saguaro cactus (not native there) as tall as the roof overhang. I definitely made $ when I sold it some years later, as will you, for all your trouble. ;)

    Sounds like it was a sweet deal!
  • 04-02-2025, 09:20 PM
    Lord Sorril
    Re: Snakes and Stones
    Photo #489
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ked_tjtr2u.jpg
    Tumbled/Polished Thundereggs with a Orange Dream/Het Piebald.

    For some reason I thought that an OD/Het Pied would have a very prominent marker on the underbelly near the tail (similar to the one shown below on a OD/Het Clown).
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ked_d9gmk0.jpg
    However, none of my OD/Het Pieds I hatched in 2024 have the traditional marker, just a white underbelly...go figure...
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ked_ki3jsf.jpg
    And since I have two underbelly tail shots: In this case I am sure you can identify which ball python is male and which is female based on shape. :)
  • 04-03-2025, 08:21 AM
    Homebody
    Re: Snakes and Stones
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lord Sorril View Post
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ked_d9gmk0.jpg

    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ked_ki3jsf.jpg
    And since I have two underbelly tail shots: In this case I am sure you can identify which ball python is male and which is female based on shape. :)

    I'll bite. I say the male is the top one with the short fat tail and the female is the bottom one with the long thin tail.
  • 04-03-2025, 05:05 PM
    Lord Sorril
    Re: Snakes and Stones
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Homebody View Post
    I'll bite. I say the male is the top one with the short fat tail and the female is the bottom one with the long thin tail.

    You were close...but not quite. :)
  • 04-03-2025, 06:57 PM
    Bogertophis
    That girl has some "hips"- :D
  • 04-03-2025, 08:32 PM
    Homebody
    Re: Snakes and Stones
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lord Sorril View Post
    You were close...but not quite. :)

    Aw, come on! Give me one more chance. ;)
  • 04-05-2025, 09:19 PM
    Lord Sorril
    Re: Snakes and Stones
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bogertophis View Post
    That girl has some "hips"- :D

    She certainly does!

    Of course I have a lot of ball pythons that are completely undefined: Male vs. Female = Impossible to Visually ID. :)
  • 04-05-2025, 09:46 PM
    Lord Sorril
    Re: Snakes and Stones
    Photo #490
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ked_drtapp.jpg
    BP = Enchi/Het Clown
    Stones = A Combination of Polychrome Jasper (Madagascar)/Desert Jasper (Arizona)/Ohio Rainbow Flint...

    Breeders Note: I noticed one of my breeder males has been losing body condition rapidly. He has repeatedly passed over food during 'rest breaks' for the last 4 months (one week 'on'/one week 'off'). I offered him food yesterday and he finally ate, but only one rodent, and not nearly enough to restore his health. I have decided to remove him from breeding for the rest of the season. I know there is a anecdote that you can kill a male ball python by breeding him too much...I always thought this seemed kinda ridiculous...but now I can imagine how it may be possible with poor husbandry.
  • 04-06-2025, 05:30 PM
    Lord Sorril
    Re: Snakes and Stones
    Photo #491
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ked_cozmsm.jpg
    GHI/Fire/Het Gravel or Yellowbelly with assorted stones. :)
  • 04-08-2025, 08:40 PM
    Lord Sorril
    Re: Snakes and Stones
    Photo #492
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ked_aigxox.jpg
    BP = Enchi/Het Clown with assorted stones. :)
  • 04-08-2025, 09:51 PM
    Lord Sorril
    Re: Snakes and Stones
    Someone mentioned that all my Enchi/Het Clowns look alike... They are the same morph and some of them are clutchmates...so of course they will share similar characteristics.

    I produced 3 clutches containing Enchi/Het Clowns in 2024. The first clutch had a more erratic and lower expression Enchi patterning (Photos #359, 360, 431, 447).
    My 2nd and 3rd clutches had a 'cleaner' and 'higher' expression level and thus they made it into my dozen or so Enchi/Het Clown holdbacks.

    I do have an issue with the Albino gene (not Lav Albino) hiding in my Enchi line (at below 50% Het probability). I'm fairly certain the two Enchis on the left in the photo below are carrying Albino.
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ked_xc35lu.jpg
    I would like to take a photograph of all my Enchi holdbacks together, but as I mentioned previously: I have a difficult time managing more than 4 sub-adult ball pythons at a time.

    +Fun fact: I counted 12 more holdback specimens to photograph for my 2024 set. Definitely going to break the '500' specimen photograph milestone. :)
  • 04-11-2025, 08:32 AM
    Lord Sorril
    Re: Snakes and Stones
    It is 60F...snow on the ground...flowers in bloom...must be Spring! Time to start up the rock tumblers again...
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ked_kkysem.jpg
  • 04-11-2025, 09:19 PM
    Lord Sorril
    Re: Snakes and Stones
    Photo #493
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ked_thbdxm.jpg
    Clown/50% Het Lavender Albino with some Petrified Wood (mostly from Arizona, USA).

    Every time I look at this Clown ball python: my eyes try to figure out whether or not she is carrying Lavender Albino. I am completely undecided. :hmm:
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ked_r3rew6.jpg
    She retains a tenuous position in my holdback collection.
    Depending upon my 2025 offspring: I may end up selling her before I get the chance to proof breed for confirmation.
  • 04-13-2025, 09:08 AM
    Lord Sorril
    Re: Snakes and Stones
    Photo #494
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ked_brscz3.jpg
    BP = Lavender Albino/66% Het Clown with another batch of assorted small stones from all over the world.
    Note: Since I only show each stone in a #'d photo once: These assorted small stone photos are a good way for me to show off my little stones that I am too lazy to collect into individual groups
    ...or just odds and ends of batches. :)
  • 04-14-2025, 11:37 PM
    Lord Sorril
    Re: Snakes and Stones
    Photo #495
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ked_shqgmh.jpg
    BP = Enchi/Het Clown, I see she is a little overweight at the moment, but that will wear off rapidly as she grows.
    Stones are two (maybe three) types of Jasper/Agate collected in Oregon, USA.
  • 04-15-2025, 08:11 AM
    Homebody
    Re: Snakes and Stones
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lord Sorril View Post
    Photo #495
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ked_shqgmh.jpg
    BP = Enchi/Het Clown, I see she is a little overweight at the moment, but that will wear off rapidly as she grows.
    Stones are two (maybe three) types of Jasper/Agate collected in Oregon, USA.

    What in this photo leads you to believe she's overweight? I'm not good at judging weight, and I'd like to be better at it since it's an issue that comes up on the forum from time to time. Thanks.
  • 04-15-2025, 08:31 AM
    Lord Sorril
    Re: Snakes and Stones
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Homebody View Post
    What in this photo leads you to believe she's overweight? I'm not good at judging weight, and I'd like to be better at it since it's an issue that comes up on the forum from time to time. Thanks.

    Sure, you bet. The easiest way to tell on a ball python is to look at the scales and see if there are gaps or separation between them.
    If they are in perfect body condition then the scales should be fully interlocked and you should not see the skin below.
    In the photo shown below you can see the scales are slightly separated.
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...zed_tqvaii.jpg
    This is not really an issue with sub-adult ball-pythons as they will use the extra reserves to accelerate their growth.
    If this was an established adult male or a female outside of 'laying season'-I would scale back the amount of food I provide at regular intervals. :)
  • 04-15-2025, 04:19 PM
    Bogertophis
    I would consider the "scale separation" relevant where the snake's body is straight...they separate more easily when the snake's body is curved, but should definitely overlap when straight.
  • 04-18-2025, 11:29 PM
    Lord Sorril
    Re: Snakes and Stones
    Photo #496
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ked_tscgk7.jpg
    GHI/Fire/Lesser with some more assorted odds and ends. I did a quick count and can spot over 30 types of stones in the photo above.

    Breeders Note: I had a handful of breeder females commit to attacking me while performing maintenance on their enclosures today. This is completely normal for the season.
    I also noticed a lot of females with full-size follicles, but follicles do not guarantee eggs...so I can't get excited just yet. :)
  • 04-21-2025, 01:29 PM
    Lord Sorril
    Re: Snakes and Stones
    Photo #497
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ked_lhbqp9.jpg
    BP = Orange Dream/Het Piebald, with another assortment of small stones (I count 46 types). :)
  • 04-21-2025, 08:52 PM
    Bogertophis
    Re: Snakes and Stones
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lord Sorril View Post
    Photo #497
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ked_lhbqp9.jpg
    BP = Orange Dream/Het Piebald, with another assortment of small stones (I count 46 types). :)


    :rockon: (I know, what took me so long?) :D
  • 04-22-2025, 07:15 PM
    ROSIEonFIRE
    Re: Snakes and Stones
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bogertophis View Post
    :rockon: (I know, what took me so long?) :D

    Do you sell prints of your photographs?


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  • 04-23-2025, 09:45 AM
    Lord Sorril
    Re: Snakes and Stones
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ROSIEonFIRE View Post
    Do you sell prints of your photographs?

    Hahaha, no, not at the moment. I have a lot of projects going on right now and I try to keep a low profile. Eventually though...I will consider it...:)
  • 04-23-2025, 09:51 AM
    Lord Sorril
    Re: Snakes and Stones
    Photo #498
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ked_hybnvp.jpg
    BP = Pastel/Lesser/Het Gravel or Yellowbelly
    The stones are Atlantis Wonder Jasper: which I think is actually a form of Agatized Rhyolite (Nevada, USA). This is challenging rock tumbling material due to its proclivity to shatter and pit relentlessly.
  • 04-28-2025, 11:25 AM
    Lord Sorril
    Re: Snakes and Stones
    Photo #499
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ked_pjj4wq.jpg
    Ball Python = Enchi/Het Clown
    Stones are local granite variations. I really need to stop tumbling these, but, every now and then I find one that takes a high shine-and they are free. :)

    Breeders Note: I noticed I had a really bad sore throat last week. I made sure to separate all my ball python matings and do a full clean and refresh water on all my reptiles and rodents (in expectation of being down for a while). As of today: April 28th I am on Day 4 of a respiratory flu and I am just starting to experience improvement. I hope none of my ball pythons have laid eggs early...just sitting in front of my computer alone is taking my maximum level of effort...
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