Pine shavings.

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Originally Posted by snakesRkewl

I have several friends who use kiln dried pine under their rats.
Every single rat they own sneezes.....

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as someone already mentioned....it could have been a number of things to set the sneezing off....dusty shavings, a sick rat, bad food, dirty tub.....to many variables.

one thing that many people get confused is cedar and pine..... two different trees....two different shavings. and one of the worst shavings to get is the "aroma" type such as lemon scent.

just my opinions of course...

Pitoon

I only use Reptibark at this time. Haven't seen pine in my area (except for pine bark mulch), and seeing as I do not care for the scent of pine any time but at Christmas, then I just don't use it. Yes it would be cheaper, but why take a risk of harming my animals (it is not proven either safe or harmful), just for looks..which is something I can get with reptibark. I am allergic to pine pollen, and generally stay away from pine if I can. i do not even like pine scented cleaners for my home...so...No pine for me. :)

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Originally Posted by nixiefee

I only use Reptibark at this time. Haven't seen pine in my area (except for pine bark mulch), and seeing as I do not care for the scent of pine any time but at Christmas, then I just don't use it. Yes it would be cheaper, but why take a risk of harming my animals (it is not proven either safe or harmful), just for looks..which is something I can get with reptibark. I am allergic to pine pollen, and generally stay away from pine if I can. i do not even like pine scented cleaners for my home...so...No pine for me. :)

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Just out of curiosity, what would it take to prove that pine, the dry kind, is not harmful to your snakes?

Conversely, what have you based your conclusion that it is detrimental to your snakes on? How much proof do you have and from whence did it come?

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Originally Posted by wilomn

I'd start a poll, but that's too much effort.

I'm wondering how many of you No pine users also go along with the world being flat.

You can just post yes if you do and no if you don't, no need for explanations, just a matter of curiosity.

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my friend had 3 balls use pine shivings all 3 balls died. he used aspen the ball didnt die.

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Originally Posted by SRMD94

my friend had 3 balls use pine shivings all 3 balls died. he used aspen the ball didnt die.

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Well there's your problem, pine shivings are notoriously dangerous. Pine shavings, however, are not.

I've been keeping snakes on pine shavings for over 30 years and have never had one issue. Not one. Let me repeat - nada.

Tell your, ahem, "friend" to try pine shavings next time. I guarantee his snakes won't die.

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Originally Posted by Skiploder

Well there's your problem, pine shivings are notoriously dangerous. Pine shavings, however, are not.

I've been keeping snakes on pine shavings for over 30 years and have never had one issue. Not one. Let me repeat - nada.

Tell your, ahem, "friend" to try pine shavings next time. I guarantee his snakes won't die.

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You mean aspen?

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Originally Posted by Reddog

You mean aspen?

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No, he meant pine shavings, the guy above him said shivings, it was a joke. (Insert emote for something flying over someone's head :P)

It doesn't seem anyone is qualified to give a clear yes or no on this. Although it is looking more and more to me like "PINE IS BAD" is something that people read when they get into the hobby and now that is considered true, whether it is or not.


I'll email BHB, maybe they will do a snakebytes episode on it :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by SRMD94

my friend had 3 balls use pine shivings all 3 balls died. he used aspen the ball didnt die.

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My friend who rides bikes crushed a testicle. My other friend, who rides trikes, didn't. Therefore, and conclusive beyond even the remotest shadow of a whisker of doubt, riding bkes causes cancer and riding trikes prevents it.

One of us is sarcastic, the other simply ignorant.

Which one do you think you are?

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Originally Posted by mackynz

No, he meant pine shavings, the guy above him said shivings, it was a joke. (Insert emote for something flying over someone's head :P)

It doesn't seem anyone is qualified to give a clear yes or no on this. Although it is looking more and more to me like "PINE IS BAD" is something that people read when they get into the hobby and now that is considered true, whether it is or not.


I'll email BHB, maybe they will do a snakebytes episode on it :rolleyes:

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Not that it matters, but BHB uses pine as does EBV and many others.

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Originally Posted by wilomn

My friend who rides bikes crushed a testicle. My other friend, who rides trikes, didn't. Therefore, and conclusive beyond even the remotest shadow of a whisker of doubt, riding bkes causes cancer and riding trikes prevents it.

One of us is sarcastic, the other simply ignorant.

Which one do you think you are?

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:O Clearly I must go purchase a trike! I also like how it went from being a crushed testicle to cancer :P


Also, if everyone was a little more sarcastic the world would be a better place.

I hate to break it to some of you ladies but:

- You can't get an STD from a toilet seat.

- Baldness does not come strictly from your mother's side.

- There is no Easter Bunny.

- Buying a Harley does not make you tough.

- Ordering a diet coke with that double Whopper value meal really isn't going to make much of a difference.

- Your snake does not love you.

- Good people die in horrible ways and some bad people live long lives and do so behind the wheel of a Bentley.

- The size of a man's hands and feet do not indicate that a third appendage is also of a similar size.

- When you die, the world will run just fine.

and lastly:

- Pine bedding is not harmful to snakes.

Anyone who tells you otherwise is doing nothing but repeating something someone else regurgitated on a forum.

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Originally Posted by mackynz

:O Clearly I must go purchase a trike! I also like how it went from being a crushed testicle to cancer :P


Also, if everyone was a little more sarcastic the world would be a better place.

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Well, I certainly messed that one up. I need to proof read more gooderer.

So, I'm jumping in late, here, but I'd just like to point out that MANY species of snake/reptile live almost exclusively in PINE forests, so the blanket statement that "pine is toxic to all reptiles" doesn't hold water with me, AT ALL. I don't have time to point out all the individual RIDICULOUS things people have said in this thread, and I don't know if anyone involved will ever see my reply anyways, but this has been one of the most uneducated threads I've ever come across! *removed TOS violation*

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Originally Posted by Tybo

So, I'm jumping in late, here, but I'd just like to point out that MANY species of snake/reptile live almost exclusively in PINE forests, so the blanket statement that "pine is toxic to all reptiles" doesn't hold water with me, AT ALL. I don't have time to point out all the individual RIDICULOUS things people have said in this thread, and I don't know if anyone involved will ever see my reply anyways, but this has been one of the most uneducated threads I've ever come across! *removed TOS violation*

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First post to revive a 6.5 years old thread with this type of attitude? [emoji57] [emoji57]

You know there have been more recent discussions? You could even have created a new thread!

You have a PM I would encourage you to read it

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Originally Posted by pavlovk1025

Yeah pine is such a no go that I had to put up a thread to find out if feeding rodents that lived on pine bedding was a good idea. Scary stuff, imagine how many people have BPs and dont know any better? 25-40yr life span in captivity nothing, the pet shops are killing off animals and making people buy more BPs.
"Oh honey, our 7 yr old BP died. Let's go buy a new one."
Or the pet stores that are like hey buy hot rocks and UTHs and half logs and put em all in and get the vines to climb on. That way your BP can get burnt, live in toxic conditions and climb to the screen top, burn its nose and fall back down.

Damn you Petco...!!

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So... about feeding your bp fodents that lived on pine? Ok or no?

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Originally Posted by mamashel

So... about feeding your bp fodents that lived on pine? Ok or no?

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7 years thread and the member you are asking a question to has not posted since 12-20-2011

Creating a new thread would have better results.