Police here have no lives..

I have done some more quick research on the quotas. It appears some departments may have had and currently do have a quota system but it looks like most of them are worded to reflect productivity.

Just do a google search and you will find the same mixed answers as you do on this forum.

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Originally Posted by Pandora

Well, they call it the G2 driver's curfew. I assume it's the same or similar thing wherever this incident happened.

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Can you point me in the direction where it says that is it officially called the "G2 Driver's Curfew"?

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Originally Posted by Pwilliams58

Can you point me in the direction where it says that is it officially called the "G2 Driver's Curfew"?

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Never said anything about officially.
I have heard people call it that before though.

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Originally Posted by dsirkle

mOOkfu- You know darn well that you will be sleeping on the couch if you knock the Po Po.

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Haha, don't you know it! But really, What Chris said is true, all of this coming on the tail end of Chris being told by a police officer late last night that since he let the girl from next door use his phone to call the police, he was "aiding and abetting", because now the Boyfriend is charging the girl with domestic abuse. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Pwilliams58

That restriction is only for the first six months of having your G2. But that doesn't really have anything to do with curfew, that is about keeping inexperienced drivers off the road at night (which doesn't really make sense to begin with, the roads are empty :confused:) not keeping trouble making kids off the street.

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Some cities have curfews for children under 18 that has nothing to do with driving. Whats the big deal? The kid should have been home studying for school, not out riding around with his friend.

Why does race at all come into any of this? The kid was under the age for curfew. He got busted. He got hauled off in the back of the police car and probably was taken home to his parents and not booked and thrown in jail for the night! (like many here assume I'm sure)


Jeez, people. The majority of Cops aren't the bigoted racist ass wipes people all think they are! Give the cops a break and worry what it will be like in your future and your children's future when the public funds are and manpower is cut and the cops have to work 12 hours a day, with a 1/3 of the force they had!

the same happens here with me. seeing that 90-95%(MAYBE 100%) of the people in my neighborhood are latino/hispanic, it happens quite ofte to be pulled over by a white cop. especially if you're a "cool kid" with a "cool car", you're pulled over cuz you like to "rev up" your car and make all kinds of ANNOYING noise with the engine or going over the speed limit. or you dress/look like a gang member or look drunk, you'll definitely get pulled over.

one time my friends(all mexican) and i got to my house at like around almost midnight and parked near my house and a white cop stopped us and asked what we were doing and we told him we just got something to eat and now we're home. then my 18 yr old friend got into his truck ready to go home and the cop stopped him and asked for his license, which he DID have. he checked it, then let him go. then he told us to go home cuz he wouldnt want us to get caught in a drive-by shooting or something.

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Originally Posted by ADEE

The DRIVER who was 16 was breaking the law, thats why he was put in cuffs, exc. The PASSENGER was not breaking the law which is why he got to go home.

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Read. I did not say the driver was 16. The driver is the one they let go.

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Originally Posted by snakecharmer3638

RKO,
As posted earlier you don't know the complete circumstances of the situation. So to say that the police were acting in a unfair or biased way is in fact a biased statement.
As for the curfew issue, And I know I'm going to get attacked here, but what does a sixteen year old KID need to be out at 2am for? Maybe they were coming back to do harm to you or your dog. Maybe you should be thanking the cops for patrolling your streets instead of complaining. :D

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I was 20'-25' away. I could hear just about everything they were saying.

Maybe he was visiting his grandmother and helping her out with stuff.

I'm gonna let that dog comment slide because as I said earlier it's just stupid.

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Originally Posted by FIREball

How do you know their ages?

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Curfew for anyone under 17 is 11:30 P.M. Driver was let go, so he is obviously over 17. Passenger was under 17, so obviously he was violating curfew.

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Originally Posted by waltah!

I'd say that it would be tough to know all of the details just from watching. If the driver has previous offenses or something then the passenger would be released and the driver would not.

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THE DRIVER WAS LET GO! THE PASSENGER WAS NOT!

And even IF the driver had any warrants or anything, they would have taken the passenger in too because he was violating curfew.

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Originally Posted by Kaorte

It is the end of the month, and cops need to fill their quota. They are supposed to do a certain number of pull overs and arrests per month, so sometimes they make a big scene out of nothing, just so they don't get in trouble from their higher ups.
I know a guy who got a $115 ticket for going 2 over the speed limit. Its just ridiculous.

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LMAO this is a load of BS. I've grown yup with cops in the family, family friends, co-workers, etc. I can tell that "quota" is just a rumor and is not true at all.

Like said above, don't break the law and the law won't be after you or whoever else. :salute:

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Originally Posted by snakecharmer3638

Okay everybody, let's get back to the original post. This involved two juveniles out at 2am. I would suspect that they were probably the only car on the road in that area at the time. Let's do a hypothetical. The police officer while patrolling sees the car with two people in it at 2am and starts to follow them. As stated there are several reasons someone could be pulled over. After following them for a short while he notices that they have a tag light out or maybe they swerve just a little. He pulls them over and finds that two young kids are driving the car. HUMMM. Why are they out so late. I'm sure he asked, don't know what they said, but that's not important. What is important is that one of those kids is in violation of curfew. After making an arrest, in this case the curfew violation, they then have the right to search the car. When they do maybe they find drugs or stuff they suspect to be stolen from cars in the area or tools that could be used to break into cars or vandalize property. In this case it appears they did not find anything other then a curfew violation. Where they doing there job? I say yes. :gj:

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One kid! Read.

No they were not the only car on the road. About 20-30 cars passed by during the entire 40 minute pull over. I live right off a big street. Most of them slamming their breaks because they saw red and blue lights and knew it was the police.

While searching the car, how come they NEVER asked the driver to step out? What do you suggest this 'probable cause' was then?

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Originally Posted by littleindiangirl

Why does race at all come into any of this? The kid was under the age for curfew. He got busted. He got hauled off in the back of the police car and probably was taken home to his parents and not booked and thrown in jail for the night! (like many here assume I'm sure)

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Because most of the cops here are racist.

My buddies bike was stolen by white kids. I called the cops for him. The police officer, which just happens to be that fat one in the last picture (there are only like 10-15 cops in my 'township'), came up to us. Asked the situation. When he wanted to get into the thiefs detail, first thing out of his mouth was "was he black?"

Going to tell me that's not racist?

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Originally Posted by FIREball

As far as staffing of the police departments, it should match the race percentages in the city, town, or county you live. If your city is 95% white than it should be no surprise there is not a black officer.

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Not really. Not too far away there is a very trashy, ghetto looking neighborhood. It is an all black neighborhood. I know because I went to school with kids from that neighborhood and they told me so. Tell me why they always report it is a white cop that tries to put something on them.

One kid was telling a story in school where him and his three black friends were pulled over by a white cop and the cop did not tell them there were speeding or anything and wanted to search his car. He told the cop straight up that he better give him a ticket or put a charge on him for something because he knows the only reason he got pulled over because there were four black kids in the car. He was let go... Now can I say this story is true? no. Because I only heard it. But it certainly wouldn't surprise me...

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Originally Posted by RKO

Not really. Not too far away there is a very trashy, ghetto looking neighborhood. It is an all black neighborhood. I know because I went to school with kids from that neighborhood and they told me so. Tell me why they always report it is a white cop that tries to put something on them.

One kid was telling a story in school where him and his three black friends were pulled over by a white cop and the cop did not tell them there were speeding or anything and wanted to search his car. He told the cop straight up that he better give him a ticket or put a charge on him for something because he knows the only reason he got pulled over because there were four black kids in the car. He was let go... Now can I say this story is true? no. Because I only heard it. But it certainly wouldn't surprise me...

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It should match, if it doesn't then I would be interested to see how many black officers applied for a position. Also it seems there is alot of rumors and what ifs with your stories.

This is like me overhearing somebody saying they saw a fire truck going emergency (lights and sirens) and then they pull into a grocery store and cut the lights and sirens. This happens, we are going to a call and we get cancelled because they either no longer need our help or another unit is on scene and can handle. However, Joe Public just thinks we want to run people off the road to go get dinner when we just happen to pull in a parking lot to turn around.

Just curious, what township do you live in?

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Originally Posted by RKO

Around 2 A.M. I see lights start flickering outside my room. So of course, as always, I go out and eves drop. They pulled over a car. Do they need one car? No. They need FOUR! They pulled over a couple kids. One black, the driver; and one white, the passenger. The cops ask the black kid to step out of the car, so he does. Then they search him. Then they search the car, then they start searching the grass acting like he threw out a weapon or drugs as they was getting pulled over. Turns out the black kid was 16 so he was violating curfew while his friend was over 17, no curfew for 17 year olds. They let the white driver go. They put the black kid in handcuffs and in the back of the car and went on their way to the station.

Am I the only one who thinks these cops are racist?

A couple months ago, they pulled over a black woman. Took her out of the car, searched her, searched the car, gave her a sobriety test, and had her car towed... why? Because she had no insurance. They needed two squad cars and a captain for that.

I live in a 95%+ white neighborhood, no black cops at all.

I got some pics :D (bad ones)

Two cars
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x...m/PICT3134.jpg

The other two cars and the driver's car
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x...m/PICT3135.jpg

Black kid out of the car
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x...m/PICT3136.jpg

Black kid being searched
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x...m/PICT3137.jpg

Talking to the kid
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x...m/PICT3138.jpg

Searching the car
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x...m/PICT3141.jpg

Two cops talking, left; kid sitting on the hood
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x...m/PICT3142.jpg

Right before they put him in cuffs and took him away
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x...m/PICT3143.jpg

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Yea the cops are the ones who dont have lives..you think they would be on a forum that has nothing to do with the police writing about them..and im pretty sure you said that the african american kid was past curfew...and the white kid wasn't....i dont see any racism here..sounds like something somebody would put up who had nothing better to do.

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Originally Posted by ballpy1234

Yea the cops are the ones who dont have lives..you think they would be on a forum that has nothing to do with the police writing about them..and im pretty sure you said that the african american kid was past curfew...and the white kid wasn't....i dont see any racism here..sounds like something somebody would put up who had nothing better to do.

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Awww. Are you sad I didn't except your rediculous offer of $60 for my pastel male?

Because it sure seems it. Your first post, you've since you've registered is an attack at me.

Cheer up buck-o. I'm sure someone else will sell you a pastel male for $60.

Hi,

Lets try and keep it civil if possible.

If it gets out of hand it will need to be moved to the quarantine room.


dr del

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Originally Posted by ballpy1234

Yea the cops are the ones who dont have lives..you think they would be on a forum that has nothing to do with the police writing about them..and im pretty sure you said that the african american kid was past curfew...and the white kid wasn't....i dont see any racism here..sounds like something somebody would put up who had nothing better to do.

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Because someone was past curfew they are entitled to being searched and their friends car while he was not violating curfew?

Man, when I lived in Chicago, you get busted for curfew, you get thrwn in back of the car (no handcuffs) and they take you to your parents/guardians house.

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Originally Posted by FIREball

This is like me overhearing somebody saying they saw a fire truck going emergency (lights and sirens) and then they pull into a grocery store and cut the lights and sirens. This happens, we are going to a call and we get cancelled because they either no longer need our help or another unit is on scene and can handle. However, Joe Public just thinks we want to run people off the road to go get dinner when we just happen to pull in a parking lot to turn around.

Just curious, what township do you live in?

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You can't fake it really well with a fire tuck. People know if there is a fire or not.

You do, however, see police turning on their sirens to get past red lights or wherever they want to go fast.

A Chicago 'suburb':D

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Originally Posted by RKO

One black, the driver; and one white, the passenger. ]

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Originally Posted by RKO

Read. I did not say the driver was 16. The driver is the one they let go.

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Originally Posted by RKO

Around 2 A.M. I see lights start flickering outside my room. So of course, as always, I go out and eves drop. They pulled over a car. Do they need one car? No. They need FOUR! They pulled over a couple kids. One black, the driver; and one white, the passenger. The cops ask the black kid to step out of the car, so he does. Then they search him. Then they search the car, then they start searching the grass acting like he threw out a weapon or drugs as they was getting pulled over. Turns out the black kid was 16 so he was violating curfew while his friend was over 17, no curfew for 17 year olds. They let the white driver go. They put the black kid in handcuffs and in the back of the car and went on their way to the station.

Am I the only one who thinks these cops are racist?

A couple months ago, they pulled over a black woman. Took her out of the car, searched her, searched the car, gave her a sobriety test, and had her car towed... why? Because she had no insurance. They needed two squad cars and a captain for that.

I live in a 95%+ white neighborhood, no black cops at all.

I got some pics :D (bad ones)

Two cars
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x...m/PICT3134.jpg

The other two cars and the driver's car
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x...m/PICT3135.jpg

Black kid out of the car
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x...m/PICT3136.jpg

Black kid being searched
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x...m/PICT3137.jpg

Talking to the kid
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x...m/PICT3138.jpg

Searching the car
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x...m/PICT3141.jpg

Two cops talking, left; kid sitting on the hood
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x...m/PICT3142.jpg

Right before they put him in cuffs and took him away
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x...m/PICT3143.jpg

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IMO, when cops pull over people at night, theres no telling who is in the car for sure or HOW they will act. It's a matter of safety to have more than one cop show up and I've seen it multiple times no matter how simple the situation or how small the town. You just never know.
Also, IMO, if you consider this racism or possible racism, take a look at your own perspective on this very situation and on some of the posts you've made on this thread because I bet if someone wanted to, they could interpret this and say this is all reverse racism in response to something that appears to be just a kid breaking the law. Tthe kid broke the law, so I agree that I see no racism here either. That's the other side of the coin.