Snake moments

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Originally Posted by martyb

Thats what im doing the Powerpoint presentation to try and show her that they are facinating animals as i have

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I applaud your determination and diligence. My mom was and still is the same way. Except she is terrified of them. When I was young she allowed me to keep(almost) everything. I had hermit crabs, frogs of all sorts, salamders, turtles, crayfish and multiple fish. I 'm sure I'm leaving some out, but absolutely, possitively NO snakes in the house. I've been out of the house many years, even have a son one year younger than you. I own many snakes and my whole family enjoys them. We often sit around in the living room , each holding a different snake. When my mom comes over, she peeks at them and shakes her head. I asked her one time, "do you dislike rats or snakes more". She said "rats for sure". I said "there you go, snakes are your best friend".

This story probably won't help you, but I feel your pain. Keep up the good fight!

ok i will try and she her side and try to get her to want to get a snake which was the route iwas going down with trying to reach her heart about it and you just reassurred me that was the right way to go about it thankyou
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as for the experiences they all help a little :D

as for using the experiences they aren't going to my mumanymore becuase she is just becoming more stubborn:(

so this is really just to get my fix of snake while i dont have my own so keep them coming plzzzzzzzzz
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Marty since you can't have your own snake at home quite yet have you thought of getting a part time job at a pet store that does offer snakes for sale, or a teen volunteer programme at a local zoo, or volunteering at a reptile rescue. I'm not sure what's available in your area but it might be something of interest to you. Even check with the local vets. They might not handle a lot of snakes but still it might be worth asking around a bit. Any chance of a herp society or group in the area? What about snake breeders that might appreciate a bit of Saturday help cleaning tubs? :)

i have thought of all these things but i ot quite sure that i could becuase i live in a issolated village bout 1 and a half hours for anywhere so i have no real way o fgetting anywhere to do that but i would like to if i could find somewhere to get a job in a place like that

I GOT IT! buy a fake snake and tell your mom that your going to show her how you would tend to the snake by showing her with a fake rubber one.... take care of the fake one for a week or so.... then put a real one in there.. when she questions you, just be like i guess i took care of the rubber one so good, it turned into a real one because im so good! j/k :banana::banana:

very good :gj:

you had me going untill you said change it with real snake

i thought you really wanted me to get rubber snake and pretend its real:8:

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I don't know your mom marty, but I would stay away from trying anything sneaky.

so, to expand on my previous e-mail, try to get your mom to tell you all her reasons. Don't argue them, just take them and write them down and think about them. If one of her reasons is "because I said so" you're probably just going to have to drop it for a while. But, if she's concerned about things like money, your responsibility, your safety, etc. then you can work to address them one by one. Also, her concerns may be based on your behavior in the past. If they are, you should own up to whatever you did wrong, and then work to show her you can do better.

Also, make sure you yourself understand that you're getting a pet that needs special attention and can live a very long time. Your life is just getting started and things are probably going to start changing alot for you in the next few years. What are you going to do if you want to go to a college and they don't allow snakes in the dorm? What if you join the military and are out of the country half of the year? Your mom knows all about this stuff and she could be thinking she doesn't want to be stuck with an unwanted pet down the road. Would you be prepared to sell your snake? Would you be prepared to pass up lifetime opportunities for your snake? I'm pushing 40 and I've settled down a bit but I still worry about these things with my pets!

i was like you, i wanted a snake when i was 15 too and my obsession went on for well...let's just say i'm getting my third one now, i'm a sophmore in college. My mom didn't want me to have a snake she was stubborn too saying that it would kill my little brother and eat him in the middle of the night, and everyone in my family was like it's satan (bible) so i tried and tried with no success and then i gave up for a while, went to college bought a snake, came home with it and all my mom had to say was...i guess you really wanted one, she didn't even care, i even got her and my grandma to touch it and my mom sometimes takes it out and holds it when i'm home.

If your mom is becoming more stubborn it is almost certainly because you are pushing too hard. Back off a while. I don't mean drop it entirely (you want her to continue to see that you have a genuine interest, not just a passing whim), but stop pushing.

Snake moments:
When we got our baby girl almost 2 months ago, she was very shy. We had a little trouble getting her to eat regularly for us. With time and the help of some crumpled newspaper, she appears to have settled in to her new home very nicely. She has a great feeding response now. In fact, she bit my boyfriend the last time we fed her, but that was only because he got careless and let his hand be the closest, warmest, movingest thing to the snake, so of course she struck! (Note, I'm not recommending you tell your mom this particular one!)

She's always come out in the evenings as long as it was quiet in the room she is in, but she used to disappear into the closest hide whenever someone walked in to the room. Now it is much more common for her to stay out even if we stand there watching her. A day or 2 ago, I was rearranging stuff in her enclosure because she'd knocked over the temp gauge so I needed to get it back where I could see it. When I opened up the cage, she came halfway out of her hide, apparently just to check out what I was doing. It felt really good to know that we've been able to provide a home that makes her feel safe & secure so she's not afraid to check out what is going on.

thanks for all the moments so the main idea is to wait for a month say? then try to make her want to let me get a snake by playing to her heart right? (eg buy her some presents do more chores and then ask her?)

have i got the right idea?:rolleye2:

I wouldn't say playing to her heart. Presents probably won't do anything except waste your money, what you want to do is show responsibility. I just recently got mine and I was in quite the same situation. I did make alot of smart ass comments but I wouldn't suggest that.
Other then that, I just got my snake 8 days ago and ever since the 3rd day or so he's been coming out when the light goes on, when I walk into the room, when I open his cage. He's been eating good and he hasn't snapped at me or anything. He's about to shed I believe so he's been hiding alot today but usually he's climbing the walls. He actually was drinking(I think) water off of the walls after I misted yesterday. He leaned up against it and put his face right up to the glass and was flicking his tounge on the drops of water.

kool i so want to be able to say things like that and get more involved but im being held back by not having the practical knowledge (i have the theory but not actually looked after snakes)

so thanks and more experiences plz

I'm gonna go ahead and tell you whats up. I guess you could call me rebellious, I see myself as "the Unbeliever". Prove to me why your decision is a valid and logical decision. I did this often when talking to superiors. (Didnt always work, but I did it anyways)

She says, you can't have one.
Why?
She says she doesnt like them.
Okay why dont you like them?
Because they are weird.
Why are they weird to you?
I don't like how they move, its unnatural.
(and this is where I let em have it)
So your pushing your fears on me because why, you don't like how they move?? I don't think that's very responsible as a parent, you should groom your children to have an open mind, not be prejudice because how something moves, looks or eats.
(Then give her the facts)
Snakes dont have dander, they poo once a month, they eat once a week. They are not prone to biting, they have simple husbandry requirements that are easy to take care of. I am trying to better myself by learning about these amazing creatures. You may never see this snake, they are nocturnal. It won't get out if unless someone lets them out. (keeping in mind you have a good secure set up) I dont have to feed live mice, I can get frozen. You won't ever have to see, care for, or handle this animal. Why again can't I have one? You won't even know its there.


Now, this may not work, but thats how I usually handle a situation where someone (superior) tells me I cant do this or that. LOL, and I would probably buy one anyways. (I dont really suggest doing this unless you already are like this)

Although I don't disagree with the idea of further discussion with your Mom, I'd be careful about challenging too much. She may just shut down completely! If she were to say that she's afraid of them, for example, you might continue the discussion by asking what she's afraid of...be careful of your tone of voice and just have open communication. Avoid "why" questions and stick to "what, where, when". People tend to get more defensive when you ask "why". They think your judging them vs. have open conversation. :snake:

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Originally Posted by Perry

I wouldn't say playing to her heart. Presents probably won't do anything except waste your money, what you want to do is show responsibility. I just recently got mine and I was in quite the same situation. I did make alot of smart ass comments but I wouldn't suggest that.
Other then that, I just got my snake 8 days ago and ever since the 3rd day or so he's been coming out when the light goes on, when I walk into the room, when I open his cage. He's been eating good and he hasn't snapped at me or anything. He's about to shed I believe so he's been hiding alot today but usually he's climbing the walls. He actually was drinking(I think) water off of the walls after I misted yesterday. He leaned up against it and put his face right up to the glass and was flicking his tounge on the drops of water.

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Oh yea, that was drinking. Snakes do love the freshly misted water.

that is all good L,I,G but i dont feel like she is trying to put me off snakes she just doesnt want 1 in her house which i can see but what annoys me is when i explain a lot of the time they hide and when i let it roam it would be in my room (and in the garden on a hot day) this is the bit that annoys me is when she comes out with a sarky comment like "well if they hide most of the time then you wont see it or be able to do anthing with it"

i know i could go down the educational and observing route but i feel myself getting wound up from the comment before i have to walk away

i just get sooooooooo angry when people dont listen to me:taz::mad:

LOL, yea, "my way or the highway." I don't recommend doing what I said, it's just that I usually get my superiors to cave. (it helps to be sweet as a peach about it too :D) I would recommend going crazy into ball pythons though, live it breathe it be it. Maybe she'll see how dedicated you are, and how miserable you are without one. Maybe that'll get to her softer side. ;)

lets hope so i have been getting my fix on here pretty much everyday so she can see that and its been two month and dont worry i will get a snake even if it takes me until im 38 ill be getting 1 then you can have pics of me looking proud with my very own ball python:gj:

my mom didn't want me to have a snake in her house either. so a few years later i went out and got a couple pet tarantulas... she didn't even notice when i got the snake =D
but to my advantage i'm away at college now, so my pets only come home for limited time over long breaks. interesting enough though when i am home my mom always has to look at all of them every night. she says it's to make sure none of them got out, but i think it's more of her becoming more interested in them hah.
so i guess in my ramble.. i'm saying find something that scares her even more and make the snake pet a compromise.

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Originally Posted by a7051

my mom didn't want me to have a snake in her house either. so a few years later i went out and got a couple pet tarantulas... she didn't even notice when i got the snake =D
but to my advantage i'm away at college now, so my pets only come home for limited time over long breaks. interesting enough though when i am home my mom always has to look at all of them every night. she says it's to make sure none of them got out, but i think it's more of her becoming more interested in them hah.
so i guess in my ramble.. i'm saying find something that scares her even more and make the snake pet a compromise.

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i like it any suggestions on something that moves wierder than a snake lol

maybe I missed it but did your Mom give you reasons?

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Originally Posted by bearhart

maybe I missed it but did your Mom give you reasons?

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she just has a general dislike for them rspeacially their ovements

Well, it could be worse.

I think just getting her exposed to snakes is the best thing to do here. In general, I would go for smaller snakes but not so small that they are squirmy. Small, fast, and squirmy things tend to put people off too.

BP's are great for winning people over beause there are very good looking and laid back. However, an adult might be a bit intimidating. if you could get her to touch or hold a juvenile between 2 and 3 feet that would be a great step!

she has gone down the touching/petting a snake but stilll says she doesnt like them but what i dont get is if she can touch them and not freak why wont she let me have one?

well only few more months untill i leave school and go to work
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keep the moments coming and any advice plzzzzzzzzzz:please:

Are any your parents afraid of snakes? That could be a reason. OT: The first time I saw Maver (my checkered Garter) eat a worm was certainly something to remember. I was so fascinated of how he does it. I also witnessed him shedding his skin. It sort of looks like another snake coming out of his body.

nope nothing like that .

i feel like my mum is trying to make me think she still dont like them because i got 1 for christmas but i dont want to get too excited just to have me hope shattered

well i think me mum is starting to trust me more she has been away since friday(holiday be back tommorow morning) and i have tidied and everything spotless so im getting her trust and showing im responsible

so yayyyyy hopefully i might not bother her with snakes anymore just wait for her to tell me i can have 1 and i still want more moments to keep me going so more more more i want it to be less focused on how i can get a snake and more on snakey memories/moments

sorry for the long post but im liking it and i feel good/proud of myself:gj::gj::gj::D:D:D

Tonight, I was cleaning out Dakota's enclosure and I put him in a box to wait until I was finished. I went about the job of cleaning everything and began to set up his enclosure. When I turned around, just his head was sticking out of the top of the box, watching the world - it was a very cute snake moment. :snake::)

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Originally Posted by martyb

well i think me mum is starting to trust me more she has been away since friday(holiday be back tommorow morning) and i have tidied and everything spotless so im getting her trust and showing im responsible

so yayyyyy hopefully i might not bother her with snakes anymore just wait for her to tell me i can have 1 and i still want more moments to keep me going so more more more i want it to be less focused on how i can get a snake and more on snakey memories/moments

sorry for the long post but im liking it and i feel good/proud of myself:gj::gj::gj::D:D:D

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That's wonderful! I am glad you are feeling good and responsible. Sounds like a good focus. Keep it up! :gj:

thanks for the moment that must have looked so cute and probably made a good pic

and thanks for the encourage ment and i will trymy hardest to keep focused
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anybody?