Rembrandt - Nicaraguan Boa (first snake!)

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Originally Posted by richardhind1972

Really glad he’s settling in.
I’ve got a ceramic 150w bulb and cage round it and at one end of my 4ft wooden viv and that gives me the perfect temp gradient from hot end to cool end and even the ambient in the middle if perfect,most of the time there in the cool end unless just eaten like,

Just make sure you have a thermostat attached and probe position in the right place



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That sounds great, except I'm not handy at all and have no idea how I'd attach a bulb to the cage :oops: The cage retailer has options for pre-installed heat tape and RHPs which I'm hoping to use. But I guess an RHP is closer to a CHE than heat tape, right?

I'm getting the necessary temps with just a heat pad at the moment, but I don't know if it'll still be the case when I get a much larger cage. At least I have plenty of time to think about it.

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Originally Posted by caravaggiooo

That sounds great, except I'm not handy at all and have no idea how I'd attach a bulb to the cage :oops: The cage retailer has options for pre-installed heat tape and RHPs which I'm hoping to use. But I guess an RHP is closer to a CHE than heat tape, right?

I'm getting the necessary temps with just a heat pad at the moment, but I don't know if it'll still be the case when I get a much larger cage. At least I have plenty of time to think about it.

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Hello my friend.. Try not to over think things! Sounds like you are doing just fine with things!!! Are you going to move him into a bigger glass tank or plastic tub? I personally am using 28qt tubs for both of my Boa's right now along with heat tape. They have been thriving and have good sheds every time. Remember, boas like a cooler temp and do not require high humidity. As long as you provide a proper size tub with enough space for him with a hide, water dish, appropriate substrate and good thermostat then he should be alright. I made plenty of air holes in my tub so that there is significant ventilation into the tub. Depending on the tub size, you could use 4" or 6" heat tape and I would definitively stick with the flex watt kind (which you can get from Dinos reptiles). I know it can get a bit confusing and a little stressful because you just want the best for your little guy and everyone has their own ways of doing things. Just take everyone's advice like a grain of salt. Just because one way may work for one person doesn't necessarily mean it will work for you. BTW, try to get out to the CRBE coming up in September.. it will blow your socks off!

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Originally Posted by Jus1More

Hello my friend.. Try not to over think things! Sounds like you are doing just fine with things!!! Are you going to move him into a bigger glass tank or plastic tub? I personally am using 28qt tubs for both of my Boa's right now along with heat tape. They have been thriving and have good sheds every time. Remember, boas like a cooler temp and do not require high humidity. As long as you provide a proper size tub with enough space for him with a hide, water dish, appropriate substrate and good thermostat then he should be alright. I made plenty of air holes in my tub so that there is significant ventilation into the tub. Depending on the tub size, you could use 4" or 6" heat tape and I would definitively stick with the flex watt kind (which you can get from Dinos reptiles). I know it can get a bit confusing and a little stressful because you just want the best for your little guy and everyone has their own ways of doing things. Just take everyone's advice like a grain of salt. Just because one way may work for one person doesn't necessarily mean it will work for you. BTW, try to get out to the CRBE coming up in September.. it will blow your socks off!

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Hey, thanks!

As you know his current tub is a bit roomy (since he's been eating fine I've left him in it), so I'm hoping to go straight to the PVC later, if that's too big I'll look into getting a divider or cluttering the heck out of it. I'm still working on getting the humidity lower, hopefully it won't affect him too badly in the long run (partly why I want to switch to a better ventilated cage).

I'm leaning towards doing the heat tape if it doesn't need to be too warm in there, it'll be waaaaay cheaper haha.

I tend to worry a lot and since Remby is my only snake I'm fretting over him quite a bit :D Thanks for bearing with me!

And oh yes, I'm really hoping to go to that convention, I've heard it's the big one! It'll take me an hour to get there but I bet it'll be worth it!

Small update: not much has been going on with Rembrandt, but he hasn't skipped a meal (on his 7th hopper with me now!), and a few weeks ago he started to strike and constrict in the open - before he was pretty hesitant, and always went into his hide to eat. It was super exciting to get a peek at him swallowing, but for now I'm still leaving him alone to eat just in case. I hope he'll continue getting settled in!

https://i.imgur.com/O8V9COv.jpg?2

Looking great , man do boas like to coil


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Thanks Richard! I think he's getting a bit bolder and exploring a bit more, I hope he'll show me lots of interesting behaviours going forward!

a close-up from today, I love his cute little face :)

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/rzPhIW7.jpg

also a low-quality wider shot, I'm liking his orange-y-ness more and more! I think he's gotten a bit thicker (belly to spine) but I honestly can't tell haha.

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/K42cqGU.jpg

Rembrandt is looking real good! Have you decided what your next addition will be? I know by now you have the addiction fever! It only gets better from here :gj:

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Rembrandt is looking real good! Have you decided what your next addition will be? I know by now you have the addiction fever! It only gets better from here :gj:

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Thanks!! Ahhh so there's a couple of snakes I'd LOVE to add but I don't know when that'll happen, if ever! I think a hognose would be most realistic in terms of space/care requirements (and as you know it was my first choice), but if those weren't concerns I'd also love a Russian rat or carpet python. Or a corn or black milk.... I wouldn't be able to stop :D

The costs are the biggest deterrent for me, though - I'm looking at Remby's future PVC setup (4x2x16") and it's gonna run me $500 CDN if I go with an RHP, which feels like a lot after I got his tub for $15 lol. Not to mention his Herpstat intro+ ($200 for one probe! ugh). I don't know how you all do it!

Just beautiful 👍😊

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Thanks!! Ahhh so there's a couple of snakes I'd LOVE to add but I don't know when that'll happen, if ever! I think a hognose would be most realistic in terms of space/care requirements (and as you know it was my first choice), but if those weren't concerns I'd also love a Russian rat or carpet python. Or a corn or black milk.... I wouldn't be able to stop :D

The costs are the biggest deterrent for me, though - I'm looking at Remby's future PVC setup (4x2x16") and it's gonna run me $500 CDN if I go with an RHP, which feels like a lot after I got his tub for $15 lol. Not to mention his Herpstat intro+ ($200 for one probe! ugh). I don't know how you all do it!

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Yeah it’s not cheap up front to do it the right way... but you’re set up for much better husbandry and mitigating issues that would more likely be encountered down the line had you not gone with nice thermostats and such. That boa of yours looks awesome btw!


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Originally Posted by caravaggiooo

Thanks!! Ahhh so there's a couple of snakes I'd LOVE to add but I don't know when that'll happen, if ever! I think a hognose would be most realistic in terms of space/care requirements (and as you know it was my first choice), but if those weren't concerns I'd also love a Russian rat or carpet python. Or a corn or black milk.... I wouldn't be able to stop :D

The costs are the biggest deterrent for me, though - I'm looking at Remby's future PVC setup (4x2x16") and it's gonna run me $500 CDN if I go with an RHP, which feels like a lot after I got his tub for $15 lol. Not to mention his Herpstat intro+ ($200 for one probe! ugh). I don't know how you all do it!

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Lovely Boa!

Sounds like you are being very smart. Make sure you can/are properly caring for the animals you have before adding more. Don't add more unless you can properly care for them as well.

I wish more keepers thought like that!

You have to know your limitations, whatever those are. Mine are time, space, and energy. I had a kidney transplant and work full time (from home often though). I also want to be able to spend time with all my animals (which includes 5 dogs and 8 reptiles). I am at my limit knowing that any more would mean way less space for me and the fiancé and the dogs and I wouldn't be able to give all the animals the attention they deserve. Additionally, I think it would begin to feel like a chore at that point, and not a fun hobby.

Way to go for pacing yourself and being good to your Boa. If you want more snakes down the road, it will happen. Don't worry about it. Just learn as much as you can and do what's best for who you have. Then, when you are ready for another, you will get something you really want, and not just grab anything. Make sure not have any regrets!

I have 4 snakes and love all of them. 3/4 had a real purpose/meaning for me. The first was especially meaningful; something I had wanted most of my life. The final two, I knew were my final two, and I did a lot of research and got exactly what I wanted to complete my collection.

Good luck and keep us in the loop on Remby and any future animals!

All the kind words from you experienced keepers means a lot, thanks so much! I'm having such a wonderful time sharing my first scaly baby with all of you :bow:

Nics are so much fun, your really gonna have some fun watching him fill out and mature, not sure why they not that popular , think people are put off by the high speckling. But I love it and the never get big and girthy which I think a lot of people always think of boas being 10 footers. Lol
people always overlook nics for hog island boas and nics are a fair bit smaller too.hypos nics have a great colour on them too and are still pure locality boas


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Rembrandt is finally going into his first shed with me!!! I didn't realize it until I took him out for a handling session, so I felt bad for bothering him :oops: I can't wait for his new paint job!

https://i.imgur.com/WLlcRXW.jpg?1

He looks great and sounds like he is doing really well as well.

What are your temps stable at and what's humidity normally and now that he's in shed?

I shoot for 65%+ average humidity and bump to 75-80% for sheds. If it's 60-65%+ normally that's great. Then, once his eyes clear, bump to 75-80% for a perfect shed.

His colours will pop once he's shed for you, you will really notice the pinks and oranges coming thru and only improve with age too.

As dakski said increase the humidity now you noticed he's in shed by Misting morning and night and you should have a perfect shed
Good luck and we can't wait to see his new paint job

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Originally Posted by dakski

He looks great and sounds like he is doing really well as well.

What are your temps stable at and what's humidity normally and now that he's in shed?

I shoot for 65%+ average humidity and bump to 75-80% for sheds. If it's 60-65%+ normally that's great. Then, once his eyes clear, bump to 75-80% for a perfect shed.

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Thank you!!

Temps are a bit lower than I'd like, but hopefully nothing dangerous - it's a gradient of 76 - 83 (2 f or so higher on sunny afternoons), with an 88 hot spot. I see him in both the warm and cool hides so I've tentatively assumed he's not uncomfortable.

As for humidity, I've been trying to manage it (baked substrate, additional air holes, water on cool side), but it's still high - usually in the 70s, so I air out the tub at least once a day. I've held off on a humidity bump for the shed since it's high already, I hope all goes okay.

I'm really eager to get a PVC cage where I can dial everything in more perfectly. I'm waiting to see how the heating in my home is in the fall and winter, and if there's any issues I'll spring for the PVC. (still trying to decide on heat tape or RHP....)

Also, I just peeked in his hide and his eyes have cleared up! I'm glad I snapped a pic last night or I might've thought I imagined it haha.

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Thank you!!

Temps are a bit lower than I'd like, but hopefully nothing dangerous - it's a gradient of 76 - 83 (2 f or so higher on sunny afternoons), with an 88 hot spot. I see him in both the warm and cool hides so I've tentatively assumed he's not uncomfortable.

As for humidity, I've been trying to manage it (baked substrate, additional air holes, water on cool side), but it's still high - usually in the 70s, so I air out the tub at least once a day. I've held off on a humidity bump for the shed since it's high already, I hope all goes okay.

I'm really eager to get a PVC cage where I can dial everything in more perfectly. I'm waiting to see how the heating in my home is in the fall and winter, and if there's any issues I'll spring for the PVC. (still trying to decide on heat tape or RHP....)

Also, I just peeked in his hide and his eyes have cleared up! I'm glad I snapped a pic last night or I might've thought I imagined it haha.

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Low 70's humidity is fine for a Boa normally. They don't get RI's or stressed, etc. like BP's when humidity gets in even the upper 70's. I would keep it under 80% normally, with bumps as high as 80-85% in shed okay.

Don't stress of low 70% range humidity.

Temps are fine. 88F hot spot is good. 76-83 gradient is fine. I recommend a 78F cool spot because that give you little margin of error. I don't like my BCI below 76F. However, if it's not dropping below 76F, you are okay. You also gave gradient and a hot spot, so there are plenty of choices.

PVC enclosures rock.

Depending on size, etc. I recommend an RHP, or preferably an RHP and heat tape. The heat tape is a very inexpensive addition. They can work in conjunction off the same thermostat, or two thermostats if you want. I run an RHP and heat tape off the hot side of my 6X2' Boaphiles. They run off the same thermostat and the heat tape gives belly heat while the RHP contributes to the hot spot, but also warms the air, and creates a gradient in the tank.

Remember, RHP do both hot spot and warm air.

Heat tape only warms the spot they are under.

I also like redundancy and worst case, you can always unplug one if it gets really hot (although the thermostat will control that).

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Originally Posted by dakski

Low 70's humidity is fine for a Boa normally. They don't get RI's or stressed, etc. like BP's when humidity gets in even the upper 70's. I would keep it under 80% normally, with bumps as high as 80-85% in shed okay.

Don't stress of low 70% range humidity.

Temps are fine. 88F hot spot is good. 76-83 gradient is fine. I recommend a 78F cool spot because that give you little margin of error. I don't like my BCI below 76F. However, if it's not dropping below 76F, you are okay. You also gave gradient and a hot spot, so there are plenty of choices.

PVC enclosures rock.

Depending on size, etc. I recommend an RHP, or preferably an RHP and heat tape. The heat tape is a very inexpensive addition. They can work in conjunction off the same thermostat, or two thermostats if you want. I run an RHP and heat tape off the hot side of my 6X2' Boaphiles. They run off the same thermostat and the heat tape gives belly heat while the RHP contributes to the hot spot, but also warms the air, and creates a gradient in the tank.

Remember, RHP do both hot spot and warm air.

Heat tape only warms the spot they are under.

I also like redundancy and worst case, you can always unplug one if it gets really hot (although the thermostat will control that).

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I'm relieved that boas are okay with high humidity. Still, it'll be nice to get a PVC cage with better ventilation so I don't need to worry any more. Same thing with the temps, it'll give me peace of mind if I can get it a few degrees higher and I think I can do that more easily with PVC and RHP as you suggested. (I'm eyeing a 4x2x16")

I've been wondering if I can get away with just heat tape since my UTH seems to be just enough right now. I guess an RHP would be safer, so I'll be willing to invest in one. I only have a Herpstat with one channel so I'd like to be able to stick to one heat source if possible, but if it becomes necessary I could get an Inkbird or something I suppose!

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Originally Posted by caravaggiooo

I'm relieved that boas are okay with high humidity. Still, it'll be nice to get a PVC cage with better ventilation so I don't need to worry any more. Same thing with the temps, it'll give me peace of mind if I can get it a few degrees higher and I think I can do that more easily with PVC and RHP as you suggested. (I'm eyeing a 4x2x16")

I've been wondering if I can get away with just heat tape since my UTH seems to be just enough right now. I guess an RHP would be safer, so I'll be willing to invest in one. I only have a Herpstat with one channel so I'd like to be able to stick to one heat source if possible, but if it becomes necessary I could get an Inkbird or something I suppose!

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Boa's do well in high humidity, I would say, up to 75-80% normally. Sauzo, one the users here, who has multiple Boas, swears by keeping it close to that range all the time. At that humidity, you really do not need to raise much, or at all, in shed. For ease, I generally keep Behira's (BCI) tank around 65% or so and raise in shed. Boa's (BCC, BCI, and Dwarf Species) are less sensitive to humidity and do not tend to get respiratory infections (RI) as easy as a BP if humidity is too low or too high. On a couple dry days in the winter, it got as low as 50% in Behira's tank and although I wouldn't keep it there long-term, she was fine. I generally will not let that happen and spray warm water in 1X a day or every other day in the winter to maintain 60% + consistently.

Again, I would get a RHP and heat tape. If you haven't upgraded your thermostat yet, worst case, run the RHP alone for a while. However, I would look into if you can run two devices off the same channel. I run my heat tape and RHP off the same channel of my thermostat to create proper temps. You might be fine.

To be clear, I have my thermostat set to X, with both RHP and heat tape plugged into it. The probe is between the two devices, closer to the RHP. In my case, in Behira's (BCI) tank, for example, 85F on the thermostat keeps the hot spot 86-88F, with the RHP and heat tape working together. Since the RHP runs, I have a nice gradient of dropping temps all the way to the cool side. Hot side, 87F, middle of tank, 82-84F, cool side of tank, 79-81F.

Good luck and let us know what you ultimately do.

Thanks for the info dakski! about the single channel bit you mentioned, do you mean you can plug 2 heating devices into, say, a Herpstat 1?

great news! Rembrandt shed, I've been waiting for days but found out today that he'd been sitting on it inside his hide for who knows how long!

https://i.imgur.com/9ZZ56OLh.jpg

One piece with eyecaps present, I'm really happy my very first snake shed went well :)

That’s really good news,love how the pattern can be seen in the shed


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First feeding, first poop, and first shed. All new snake milestones. Congrats on your progress!

Thanks everyone. These are the first pics I got since he's shed - I don't know if I'm noticing a big difference in his colour but I think he's looking pretty snazzy :D

https://i.imgur.com/fWjYb3m.jpg?1

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/cdU2bBH.jpg

Great read. I just got a Boa so I can relate to these experiences. He really looks great. The pattern and coloring from each snake always blows me away and yours is no exception. Very beautiful.

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Thanks everyone. These are the first pics I got since he's shed - I don't know if I'm noticing a big difference in his colour but I think he's looking pretty snazzy :D

https://i.imgur.com/fWjYb3m.jpg?1

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Wow! Handsome devil!

Hes a great colour and looks nice and healthy


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He's wicked pretty overall, but that tail! Wow! Such a gorgeous red and white contrast. I'm getting dangerously close to getting a boa myself (if my new AP T8 ever arrives!:mad:). I'm torn between a Nic, like your's, and a Hog island. Love the colors of the Nic, but I've heard Hogs can't be beat temperament-wise.

Keep the updates coming!

I’ve heard of plenty of hoggs been aggressive as well, my 3year old Hypo nic has been fine and a much better colour than any Hogg


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Originally Posted by JRLongton

He's wicked pretty overall, but that tail! Wow! Such a gorgeous red and white contrast. I'm getting dangerously close to getting a boa myself (if my new AP T8 ever arrives!:mad:). I'm torn between a Nic, like your's, and a Hog island. Love the colors of the Nic, but I've heard Hogs can't be beat temperament-wise.

Keep the updates coming!

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Thanks!! As you know this guy is my only snake so I can't offer any comparison, but for the past 2.5~ months he's been a dream! I've talked about this before here - I'm glad I wasn't scared away by the prevailing notion that Nics are aggressive; Rembrandt has never shown any sign of striking and he's more shy than moody, but still stretches out to explore when he's taken out. I'd say if the breeder/seller can vouch for the snake's personality a Nic can be fantastic. Personally, I like that they're less commonly kept, they're so underrated! I hope you'll join the boa club soon!

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... I'm glad I wasn't scared away by the prevailing notion that Nics are aggressive...

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Oh, I wasn't trying to say that I buy into that notion. Nics are beautiful (yours especially so!) and I'm sure that with appropriate care and handling they're just as tame as any other boa. But I have heard that Hog Islands can be exceptionally docile, even for boas, which is appealing as I tend to enjoy handling sessions longer than do any of my snakes. One reason I need more.

The real problem with boas is that there are so many choices!

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Oh, I wasn't trying to say that I buy into that notion. Nics are beautiful (yours especially so!) and I'm sure that with appropriate care and handling they're just as tame as any other boa. But I have heard that Hog Islands can be exceptionally docile, even for boas, which is appealing as I tend to enjoy handling sessions longer than do any of my snakes. One reason I need more.

The real problem with boas is that there are so many choices!

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I understand! I just thought it's hard when pretty much everything that comes up to do with Nics seem to be negative, at least that's what my experience was - I'm glad I trusted the store employee who told me otherwise. I'm sure Hogs are great, there must be a reason they're popular!

I totally agree that there's so many options, though. If I'd known about BCLs and other locality boas I would've had a much harder time deciding.

Short of looking for another snake to add to the collection, you don't need to re-think your decision one bit. Your snake is absolutely beautiful!!

Your Nic is gorgeous Caravaggiooo. I've gotten 2 boas recently and I'm pretty fascinated with mine too. I'm waiting for my BCI to shed any day now. Keep the pics coming please. :gj:

Thank you all so much! I'm glad I'm sharing him here because I honestly think I've become even happier with him than if I hadn't. The positive vibes here are great and I hope I can keep posting updates for years to come :snake:

This isn't really an update, but I wanted to share! I commissioned an artist called Cold-Blooded Creations on fb to make a mini version of Rembrandt and I'm really pleased with what I got. I needed a keychain and wanted something extra special :D

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/Ro9NXvo.jpg

That's a very cool keychain!

That is very awesome!! I might have to contact this artist myself...if thats ok with you?.

Thanks guys!!

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That is very awesome!! I might have to contact this artist myself...if thats ok with you?.

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Of course!!! she was very nice to order from and deserves all her business! The price + shipping to Canada was a bit steep but I think it was worth it to have a personalized trinket like this :)

again not much to report, but I had him out today and I noticed that his head is sloooowly growing into the adult boa shape! (emphasis on "slowly") I think, I honestly can't be sure haha.

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/DOOacAw.jpg

comparison with a shot from July:

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/rXi8BQG.jpg

It's been a while, there hasn't been much to report! Rembrandt has been eating like a champ (but still shyly, always in his hide) and I think he's put on some girth. He just gave me his second shed with me in one piece :)

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/uv5NmlG.jpg

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/iaHYa9e.jpg

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/d8eq6c2.jpg

Oh! And I've actually moved Remby to a PVC cage a couple weeks ago because I was starting to have trouble maintaining temps in the colder weather. I was worried it's huge for him but I've cluttered it the best I can and he hasn't stopped eating or anything, so I think he's fine in there.

(can I just say, wow RHPs are fantastic!)

unfortunately the cage has become the cat's favourite place to hang out because of course :rolleyes:

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/b2csjqx.jpg

Nice nic, he looks like a mini version of my boy Thor:-)
You have similar tastes to me I think, every other clean boa looked the same as the last, I love a speckled boa.

Such a beauty...I love the freckles. :P

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Originally Posted by Justin83

Nice nic, he looks like a mini version of my boy Thor:-)
You have similar tastes to me I think, every other clean boa looked the same as the last, I love a speckled boa.

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Thanks! I checked out your thread for Thor and he's gorgeous! Baby boas are cute but seeing grown ones like yours gets me really excited for mine to get bigger haha. And I agree about the speckles! I probably mentioned this in this thread already but speckled snakes really grew on me and now I prefer them to "clean" ones. I love how locality boas look compared to Colombians :)

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Such a beauty...I love the freckles. :P

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Thank you!

Rembrandt is really looking great, it’s nice to see the pinks and peaches starting to appear already, nics really are cool boas and pure locality too


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Richards img takes speckles to the next level tho;-)

Rembrandt suddenly started coming out every night to explore a few days ago - I was concerned at first but his environment is stable, so I guess he's gotten braver?? before this week, the most I'd see of him was usually a bit of his face poking out from his hide in evenings.

https://i.imgur.com/8sgdH2k.jpg?1

https://i.imgur.com/VCQjQoj.jpg?1

(there's water there because it's getting so dry here that it's defeating even the pvc+cypress much+bits of sphagnum moss combo, I've been misting religiously lol)


also, my cat's finally figured out the snake exists and is obsessed with watching his cage now.... I'm worried it's stressful for Remby but he's got lots of places to hide, and hasn't shown any defensiveness so I'm hoping it's ok :S

https://i.imgur.com/XuJ9Ae9.jpg?1

Gorgeous Nic!! Those browns really pop!

Really glad he’s starting to relax with you,at least you will be able to take more pics now he’s out and about
Viv looks great by the way and so
Does your nic


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Gorgeous Nic!! Those browns really pop!

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Thank you!! I can't believe I wasn't so into hypos before, now I like the browns and oranges and pinks so much!

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Really glad he’s starting to relax with you,at least you will be able to take more pics now he’s out and about
Viv looks great by the way and so
Does your nic


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Gosh, for sure, I'm not complaining at all haha. Seeing him out is so awesome, it's like having a new pet altogether. I'm just surprised his behaviour changed quite suddenly - it's morning here now and he's chilling/sleeping out on his perch! First time I've ever seen that.

Thanks Richard :D

Just shows in time they gain your trust and realise your not that much of a threat anymore
The colours on Hypo nics just get better with age so in a couple of years you will be shocked when you look back to how much they changed


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