Please Help! My ZooMed Terrarium is too cold:(

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Originally Posted by HanabiraAsashi

the cardboard would suck up all the heat, UTHs work almost 100% on direct contact.

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I see

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Originally Posted by MercedesBenz

I see

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Unplugging the UTH is best as long as you can get your ambient over 80, it can do without a hot side until you get a thermostat. My BP usually stays on the cool side until she is digesting food.

btw, how are your temps since you put on the lamp and towels?

I think I already mentioned it but look on amazon for the acurite 00891, it gives you a probe for the hot side and then cool temp and humidity also by placing the unit on the cool side. They are really acurite, reads same temp as my herpstats and ve thermostats and I own 11 of them lol. As far as keeping humidity in just cover the lid with aluminium foil or Plexiglas and just leave room for the heat dome. Did you place the heat dome over the hot hide? If not that is something I would personally do, just make sure to check the temp inside the hide if you do this. No matter where you have it make sure to check the temperature of top of substrate where the middle of the bulb beam hits bc that's where it will be hottest. Also you may want to cancel the order for the rheostat if your getting the thermostat, or you can keep it as back up or use for the heat lamp if your cool side temp doesn't stay within 78-82.

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Will have it tmr lol

https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7410/2...86682f37_c.jpgby Mercedes Benz

woah even converted to USD, they are charging alot for that thing.

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Originally Posted by HanabiraAsashi

woah even converted to USD, they are charging alot for that thing.

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Yeah, it seems everything in Canada is more expensive LOL

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Originally Posted by Eric Alan

There are no stupid questions. :) Your snake will inevitably move the bedding and be laying on the glass at some point (even if it's not doing it right now). Some make a habit of that - some only now and again. Regardless, you must make sure that when they do, it's still safe for them there.

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Yes, you would be surprised at how often they do this! I have several who will push all the bedding from one end to another just so they can lay directly on the heat source and not the bedding.

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Originally Posted by ChelseaV

Yes, you would be surprised at how often they do this! I have several who will push all the bedding from one end to another just so they can lay directly on the heat source and not the bedding.

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Im surprised at the personality of BPs sometimes. One of our snakes has a preferred spot for his hot hide. If you put it anywhere else, the next morning you'll find it back where he wants it, with the opening facing the direction he wants. He's going to have to start paying some bills around here if he wants to make decisions like that.

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Originally Posted by MercedesBenz

Will have it tmr lol

https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7410/2...86682f37_c.jpgby Mercedes Benz

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Good! Also as stated by someone good job on taking advice and getting the necessary equipment immediately, if you would of waited and really thought no thermostat was needed then we would of seen a post about your snake being burnt. In no way is it your fault, to often are snakes bought with the seller not giving the necessary information and it's not there fault either bc they don't know either. If it was a breeder you bought from then shame on them for not telling you.

Same day shipping?! No wonder why it cost what it did lol

Also idk if anyone showed you or if you read this but here is the care sheet, I should of gave you the link earlier but read it over and fix correct anything you think is wrong or ask more questions if your unsure.

http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...ius)-Caresheet

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Originally Posted by chrid16371

Good! Also as stated by someone good job on taking advice and getting the necessary equipment immediately, if you would of waited and really thought no thermostat was needed then we would of seen a post about your snake being burnt. In no way is it your fault, to often are snakes bought with the seller not giving the necessary information and it's not there fault either bc they don't know either. If it was a breeder you bought from then shame on them for not telling you.

Same day shipping?! No wonder why it cost what it did lol

Also idk if anyone showed you or if you read this but here is the care sheet, I should of gave you the link earlier but read it over and fix correct anything you think is wrong or ask more questions if your unsure.

http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...ius)-Caresheet

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Thank you :) I'll update after the vet visit and setting up the jumpstart tmr

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Originally Posted by HanabiraAsashi

All thermostats use a probe, you put the probe between the heating pad and the glass. If you have one of the tack on zoomed pads, if you try to take it off now, you'll probably have to just throw it away. Also, your substrate on the hot end is far too thick, I find that having a very slight layer (half inch thick tops) of substrate works because you dont have to worry about a major difference between the temp of the glass and the temp of the top of the substrate.

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Can I use a heat resistant tape and tape the prob on the glass where the heat pad is? Or do I really need to buy a new heat pad and stick the prob in the middle?

You cant put tape inside of the tank, snakes are derpy and they get stuck to it, and it pulls their scales off after the wrestle themselves off of it. You may be able to gently unstick the pad without breaking the element inside.. but you wont know if it broke and you wont know if its become a fire hazard.

What I did to hold down my thermometer probe, I used hot glue to hold the cable down, making sure the probe didnt get moved. The problem with this is that I only glued down the wire, not the probe itself (didnt want to risk damaging it), which means that on a thermostat, if the snake accidentally lifts up the probe (or gets substrate underneath it), the probe will no longer be reading the correct temp, and the pad will heat up until the probe gets back to your desired temp. Depending on how far off of the spot it is, it could make the glass very hot again.

Have your temps gone up since covering up the lid?

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Originally Posted by MercedesBenz

Can I use a heat resistant tape and tape the prob on the glass where the heat pad is? Or do I really need to buy a new heat pad and stick the prob in the middle?

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Rather than risk damaging your heat pad, you can use heat resistant tape and tape the probe to the bottom of the pad itself on the outside (making sure the head is in contact with the pad). It will still be able to sense the temperature there without being interfered with. You just adjust the temperature up or down according to your infrared thermometer readings on the glass until you have it dialed in.

As a heads up, the probe head for the Jump Start is pretty thick. You may need to shim the aquarium up a bit (with rubber feet most commomly) once it's in place to keep it from getting squished and keep your aquarium flush with the surface it's sitting on.

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Originally Posted by HanabiraAsashi

You cant put tape inside of the tank, snakes are derpy and they get stuck to it, and it pulls their scales off after the wrestle themselves off of it. You may be able to gently unstick the pad without breaking the element inside.. but you wont know if it broke and you wont know if its become a fire hazard.

What I did to hold down my thermometer probe, I used hot glue to hold the cable down, making sure the probe didnt get moved. The problem with this is that I only glued down the wire, not the probe itself (didnt want to risk damaging it), which means that on a thermostat, if the snake accidentally lifts up the probe (or gets substrate underneath it), the probe will no longer be reading the correct temp, and the pad will heat up until the probe gets back to your desired temp. Depending on how far off of the spot it is, it could make the glass very hot again.

Have your temps gone up since covering up the lid?

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What is key here is 1) NO tape inside ever, and 2) The thermometer (not thermostat) probe is what may be hot glued inside.

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Originally Posted by HanabiraAsashi

Have your temps gone up since covering up the lid?

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yeah but only 80f tho

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Originally Posted by Eric Alan

Rather than risk damaging your heat pad, you can use heat resistant tape and tape the probe to the bottom of the pad itself on the outside (making sure the head is in contact with the pad). It will still be able to sense the temperature there without being interfered with. You just adjust the temperature up or down according to your infrared thermometer readings on the glass until you have it dialed in.

As a heads up, the probe head for the Jump Start is pretty thick. You may need to shim the aquarium up a bit (with rubber feet most commomly) once it's in place to keep it from getting squished and keep your aquarium flush with the surface it's sitting on.

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I will try to figure it out when I receive the jumpstart tmr ^^

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Originally Posted by MercedesBenz

yeah but only 80f tho

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80 is my target ambient temp

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Originally Posted by Eric Alan

Rather than risk damaging your heat pad, you can use heat resistant tape and tape the probe to the bottom of the pad itself on the outside (making sure the head is in contact with the pad). It will still be able to sense the temperature there without being interfered with. You just adjust the temperature up or down according to your infrared thermometer readings on the glass until you have it dialed in.

As a heads up, the probe head for the Jump Start is pretty thick. You may need to shim the aquarium up a bit (with rubber feet most commomly) once it's in place to keep it from getting squished and keep your aquarium flush with the surface it's sitting on.

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So excited :) Gonna set them up when I get back from the vet tonight :D

https://c8.staticflickr.com/8/7099/2...3f44ae8f_c.jpg

Just came back from the vet. The snake turns out to be a male lol. No sign of RI or external parasites. He gave me a tube to collect feces samples to test for internal parasites. He also said the snake is getting ready to shred probably next week :)

Humidity:

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Send back that gauge. The are very inaccurate. I will say again order the acurite 00891 and it will give you a probe for hot side under substrate on top of glass over heat mat and then you can use the whole unit on cool side for cool side temp and humidity. If your worrying about ruining the uth by pealing it off then just gently peal it back and push the thermostat probe in and then press firmly to sandwich it and then take foil tape and tape the uth to the bottom of the tank. I have pealed back and moved several zoo med uth with no problem, some more than once but I always foil tape them down bc after awhile they will peal off on there own.

This is a picture of my test setup for my toffino enchi I'm getting in 2 weeks. The thermometer in the back right is the acurite 00891 and you can see the probe wire running to the left, I will bury the wire before the snake goes in, the acurite is giving me the probe reading 90.5 (hot side) 81.1 cool side and 36% humidity ( will bring humidity to proper spot once snake is in). This thermometer is what you should get, you will have very accurate readings, I have tested them and own 11.

http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1x4timke.jpg

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Originally Posted by chrid16371

Send back that gauge. The are very inaccurate. I will say again order the acurite 00891 and it will give you a probe for hot side under substrate on top of glass over heat mat and then you can use the whole unit on cool side for cool side temp and humidity. If your worrying about ruining the uth by pealing it off then just gently peal it back and push the thermostat probe in and then press firmly to sandwich it and then take foil tape and tape the uth to the bottom of the tank. I have pealed back and moved several zoo med uth with no problem, some more than once but I always foil tape them down bc after awhile they will peal off on there own.

This is a picture of my test setup for my toffino enchi I'm getting in 2 weeks. The thermometer in the back right is the acurite 00891 and you can see the probe wire running to the left, I will bury the wire before the snake goes in, the acurite is giving me the probe reading 90.5 (hot side) 81.1 cool side and 36% humidity ( will bring humidity to proper spot once snake is in). This thermometer is what you should get, you will have very accurate readings, I have tested them and own 11.

http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1x4timke.jpg

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thank you very much. I'll do it😄

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Originally Posted by MercedesBenz

thank you very much. I'll do it😄

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Good choice lol sorry to keep making you spend money but its going to save you a lot of stress later on but after that you should be all good to go! Initial setup can be a little pricy but after that it's pretty much just rats and bedding! Only other things I would recommend is a PVC cage with rhp and herpstat but the glass tank and everything else will do just fine but keep it in mind once your snake grows up.

Your in Canada right? The acurite 00891 is on amazon Canada. Also check out this website that's in Canada and keep it in mind whenever you wanna upgrade.

http://cornelsworld.com/

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Originally Posted by chrid16371

Good choice lol sorry to keep making you spend money but its going to save you a lot of stress later on but after that you should be all good to go! Initial setup can be a little pricy but after that it's pretty much just rats and bedding! Only other things I would recommend is a PVC cage with rhp and herpstat but the glass tank and everything else will do just fine but keep it in mind once your snake grows up.

Your in Canada right? The acurite 00891 is on amazon Canada. Also check out this website that's in Canada and keep it in mind whenever you wanna upgrade.

http://cornelsworld.com/

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It's ok. One should be expected to spend some money whenever they get a new pet. But I must admit, it is a lot more complicated than I thought lol. I would never listen to pet store sales people on how to take care of pets anymore ...

They are supposed to be specialized in reptiles but they even sold me a snake of the opposite gender that I wanted....

So I am defrosting a rat for the first time, and it smells like fish........

Congrats on your new friend and that all is well with him.
I try to make things as easy as possible:
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h1...psp2koldrd.jpg

To help with humidity loss you can also cover the screen top in cardboard. After you are done trimming the cardboard you can wrap it in aluminum oil so it will last.

The pet associates usually dont know what they are talking about other than a little training pamphlet they hand out (the same one they give customers). On top of that, the tank kits make you believe that it has everything you need to immediately put an animal in it (it even says snakes). Problem is, the kit doesnt come with a humidity gague or a way to regulate the light or the pad... just a recipe for disaster. Also, just because something says snakes or has a picture of a snake doesnt mean trust it without research. Sand substrate packages says they are GREAT for snakes, but seem to be good at killing them.

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Congrats on your new friend and that all is well with him.
I try to make things as easy as possible:
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h1...psp2koldrd.jpg

To help with humidity loss you can also cover the screen top in cardboard. After you are done trimming the cardboard you can wrap it in aluminum oil so it will last.

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Thank you for the tip. It's very useful :).

And nice drawing ^^

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Originally Posted by HanabiraAsashi

The pet associates usually dont know what they are talking about other than a little training pamphlet they hand out (the same one they give customers). On top of that, the tank kits make you believe that it has everything you need to immediately put an animal in it (it even says snakes). Problem is, the kit doesnt come with a humidity gague or a way to regulate the light or the pad... just a recipe for disaster. Also, just because something says snakes or has a picture of a snake doesnt mean trust it without research. Sand substrate packages says they are GREAT for snakes, but seem to be good at killing them.

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Exactly lol

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Originally Posted by chrid16371

Good choice lol sorry to keep making you spend money but its going to save you a lot of stress later on but after that you should be all good to go! Initial setup can be a little pricy but after that it's pretty much just rats and bedding! Only other things I would recommend is a PVC cage with rhp and herpstat but the glass tank and everything else will do just fine but keep it in mind once your snake grows up.

Your in Canada right? The acurite 00891 is on amazon Canada. Also check out this website that's in Canada and keep it in mind whenever you wanna upgrade.

http://cornelsworld.com/

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Is it this one
AcuRite 00891A1 Indoor and Outdoor Thermometer with Humid ?

Yes that's the one! Don't be surprised if they send you one that looks different the the picture on amazon. I own 2 different 00891 and they both work great and will give you the accurate readings you want.

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