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Re: Show us your set-ups
There's a difference between animal abuse and a plain set up. A plain set up is fine, but so is a more decorated one as long as the animal is properly taken care of. I know there's a big conflict about tubs VS tanks, but I think they're both fine as long as the husbandry is good.
Sure, more large decorative tanks are a bit harder to maintain. However, if the owner is willing to put effort into it, I think they shouldn't be criticized, neither should the people with more simple set ups. It's all about proper care, not how it looks. :)
Unfortunately, I can't access a picture of my set up, but I do have my ball pythons in a reptile basics cage, it's a bit big but I put enough things in it for my ball pythons to feel secure. I use hides because of this, if they're in a rack I don't see it as necessary, although I plan to use both in the future, I like putting the snakes I will most likely keep forever in that type of cage.
Anyway, I think we shouldn't fight about whether a flashy cage is better than a non-flashy one and vise versa unless these things get in the way of proper husbandry. :D
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Re: Show us your set-ups
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Originally Posted by Miko
There's a difference between animal abuse and a plain set up. A plain set up is fine, but so is a more decorated one as long as the animal is properly taken care of. I know there's a big conflict about tubs VS tanks, but I think they're both fine as long as the husbandry is good.
Sure, more large decorative tanks are a bit harder to maintain. However, if the owner is willing to put effort into it, I think they shouldn't be criticized, neither should the people with more simple set ups. It's all about proper care, not how it looks. :)
Unfortunately, I can't access a picture of my set up, but I do have my ball pythons in a reptile basics cage, it's a bit big but I put enough things in it for my ball pythons to feel secure. I use hides because of this, if they're in a rack I don't see it as necessary, although I plan to use both in the future, I like putting the snakes I will most likely keep forever in that type of cage.
Anyway, I think we shouldn't fight about whether a flashy cage is better than a non-flashy one and vise versa unless these things get in the way of proper husbandry. :D
word miko.word.marleys herp vet has a slew of snakes in tubs done minimilistacly.he keeps his reptile room 78degrees and uses uths and aspen substrate and just a water dish.he doesnt even use thermos or hygros and his snakes thrive and he has one snake in a super enclosure with everything on display.i just put myself in the snakes mindframe.where is my jungle jim at night ahhhhhh?????my bp goes on adventures during the night in her enclosure its funny.then she watches me play cod black ops for a bit then goes to her nightly business.i wish i got into this earlier in life.the bond between a snake and caretaker.i think an old fashioned navajo would frown on all of us keeping snakes.they believe its taboo to handle em or watch them eat.:O
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mark and marley I didn't mean you at all, It was a general statement not pointed I have absolutely no idea how you keep your animals I was making no judgement just a plain statement that some one who cares will have a set up that is healthy and will have healthy snakes against the uncaring keeper whom likely should never have bought the animal in the first place and just got it because it was cool... tub tank enclosure makes no difference it is attitude that matters.
Go back and read what I wrote again...
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Re: Show us your set-ups
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Originally Posted by mark and marley
word miko.word.marleys herp vet has a slew of snakes in tubs done minimilistacly.he keeps his reptile room 78degrees and uses uths and aspen substrate and just a water dish.he doesnt even use thermos or hygros and his snakes thrive and he has one snake in a super enclosure with everything on display.i just put myself in the snakes mindframe.where is my jungle jim at night ahhhhhh?????my bp goes on adventures during the night in her enclosure its funny.then she watches me play cod black ops for a bit then goes to her nightly business.i wish i got into this earlier in life.the bond between a snake and caretaker.i think an old fashioned navajo would frown on all of us keeping snakes.they believe its taboo to handle em or watch them eat.:O
Personally, I like to hold my snakes, it's very calming and therapeutic to me. One of my ball pythons, Ghost seems very indifferent or he likes to be out. Perhaps he's just curious, but he seems to roam and stick his head up in the air to look around. While my other ball python, Lucy seems to be quite the scardy cat, lol. She is usually really timid at first but then becomes a bit more social, but not as social as Ghost. I think it depends on the snake and the owner whether or not they handle their snakes more than just checking on them and cleaning. Bonding isn't necessary, but I personally like handling my snakes and it doesn't seem to bother them. :)
I personally think a thermometer and a hygrometer are necessary, because if I didn't have either I would probably be a bit confused on where my husbandry is, but that's just me.
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i love holding my bp it is the same for me.you cant really bond with a reptile just gain a trusting relationship because apparently reptiles lack or just that the emotional part of the brain is significantly smaller than mammals.marley is hesitant to come out of her enclosure but once she recognizes my scent its on and she is wrapped up on me everywhere and i have to fight her to get her in her enclosure when im trying to go to bed.shes like a young child that doesnt wanna sleep in her crib.once i get her back in her enclosure she keeps looking at me and trying to get out its funny.her favorite place is my neck or acting like a hair tie like in my avatar or going in my shirt and relaxing on my belly.she also likes to watch my fish.my convict cichlid was terrified when i introduced the two of course seperated by the aquarium wall.Marley positoned for a strike and Doc the convict took off shooting gravel cause thats how fast he moved.but now they just stare at each other its rediculous.i wonder what the two are thinking.the navajos with old beliefs follow that not me.im not navajo.i was just talking to one of my friends today and their beliefs on snakes.they are protectors and healers and shouldnt be disturbed.if you harm one, more aggressive snakes will seek you out.if you watch em eat youll have stomach problems later in life.another example of personal beliefs and opinions.i used to have stomach issues but i dont really have em anymore.coincidentally after Marley came into my life.hmmmm
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Re: Show us your set-ups
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Originally Posted by mark and marley
psychophobia i hope you put your bp in something with a decent temperature gradient and with hides by now. whats that substrate printer paper? snakies going to get a paper cut. that really should be considered animal abuse. please before you get any more animals make sure you have everything it needs set up before you bring it home. im disgusted.
I know you were already "scolded" by the other members, but I have to add that MANY professional breeders use flat newspaper... my snakes all live in tubs, mostly with newspaper as bedding, since I'm allergic to wood-based beddings. Carefresh is the only one I can tolerate, so I give that to the colubrids who like to burrow. Anyway, I have 26 snakes, and not one has ever gotten a "paper cut" (LOL) or been sick.
As for the hides, all but one of my snakes has as least one - the snake who doesn't is Nerissa the BP, as she really doesn't care for them. I tried offering a hide when she first arrived, and she'd only flip them over or knock them around... so instead she coils behind her water dish, or makes a newspaper "tent" to hide under.
Here's Nerissa's 41qt tub (and she's ovulating in this pic!)
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...4/IMG_0221.jpg
And this is my more typical BP setup - Mona, who does like a hide.
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...4/IMG_0013.jpg
And this is my usual colubrid setup... Carefresh or newspaper bedding, 1-2 hides, and of course a water dish.
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...3/P1020263.jpg
Kipling the JCP has a couple of branches, since he's the only one who cares for climbing/perching...
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...4/IMG_0227.jpg
3 of my 4 racks
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...3/P1010813.jpg
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P.S. When a snake has only one hide, they can create temperature gradients themselves... my snakes move their hides frequently, to wherever the preferred temperatures currently stand.
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id put newspaper before printing paper in a tub anyday.papercuts oh man i kill myself:rofl:
oh wait i am already dead.tsshhh.
if you have 26 snakes id expect alot of em to be in a minimal tub enviroment not if you only have 4.but whatever his snakes healthy and my snakies vet keeps his slew of reptiles in tubs.its over.psychophobia didnt even make a stink out of my comment like the rest did.i commend him for that.if i hear anything else about this i will sacrifice a locust to the scorpion im getting this weekend!!!!!ahhhhhhhhhh:rage:
hahaha your snake moves the hide where it wants hahaha i feel better visualizing a snake all pissed moving its furniture"stinkin human i have to do everything around here":snake:
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One of mine has 2 hides in a rack why I bother I don't know she just moves one around here and then and shoves the other out of the way... exercise right?? :P
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Originally Posted by kitedemon
dude those are some nice enclosures.is that a :cens0r::cens0r::cens0r::cens0r:ing disco ball in the second pic?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! am i allowed to cuss?!?!?!?!?!
i think jaxx has the sickest so far with that hanging waterfall. man i thought Marleys plexi glass with stars was neato.
but if thats a disco ball.oh man
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Re: Show us your set-ups
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Originally Posted by mark and marley
dude those are some nice enclosures.is that a :cens0r::cens0r::cens0r::cens0r:ing disco ball in the second pic?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! am i allowed to cuss?!?!?!?!?!
i think jaxx has the sickest so far with that hanging waterfall. man i thought Marleys plexi glass with stars was neato.
but if thats a disco ball.oh man
whoa that censor is :cens0r::cens0r::cens0r::cens0r:ing cool!!!!!!
what kind of tanks are those???
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No sorry it is a vision enclosure they have a molded light space that is what you are seeing. It has a perforated steel grid on it.
The top one is a sly plastics and the bottom one is one I built.
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the last one is the best though.i need to do that.
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I am just starting out with BP's so here is my very first tank.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y18...528_142935.jpg
No Bp in there yet. I wanted to get it all set up and running smoothly before I put one in there. But I did go down and pay for my BP today and will be picking it up Tuesday.
The hides are two plastic saucers I got from home depot and then I got some fake plants and hot glued them all around it to make it look a little more realistic then some plastic bowl sitting in the tank.
The back and sides are covered with black construction paper. I may update that later but for now it will do.
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@Jeffrey: That's so awesome!! It looks great, and I'm loving the hot-gluing idea...hmm...
Oh, and you might try posterboard, or black contact paper. I know many use the contact paper, I use posterboard...a little more cutting, but much fewer seams and less tape.
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Part of my snake room!
[IMG]http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file.../7/4/setup.jpg[/IMG]
A little blurry but got a quick shot of part of my snake room before the camera battery died! Enjoy!
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Hides?
Hey guys...for those of you who use tubs and racks....can you post pics of your hides? I use 15qt, 32qt, and 60qt tubs....I bought some hides from reptilebasics....love the design, hate the sizes. The "small" is too small for my young juvies.....and the "medium" doesn't fit in a 15Qt tub (will fit sideways...but not with a waterbowl too....) And the "large" fit nicely in a 32qt tub.....but my 2 large females (1600+ grams) won't fit in them....and the next size up "X-L" is way too big.......
I used to have a ton of the rock hides when I had tanks (the fancy rock-cave looking ones) but they are super heavy and hard to clean....i love the plastic hides that i can just stick in the dishwasher....but I can't find any that fit my tubs.....suggestions?:confused: thank you!
Oh PS.....I understand when using tubs/racks you don't "need" hides.....but ALL of my snakes except for one female ALL LOVE their hides.....which is why I am looking so hard to find some that fit. thank you!
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Most of mine dont use hides. I use some cardboard snack boxes like a cheezit or poptart box for the pickier ones.
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Re: Show us your set-ups
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Originally Posted by HopingForBabies
the instuments hanging on the door look scary :tears:
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Re: Show us your set-ups
http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...3/cimg2396.jpg
This is a pic of my adult rack before I moved it into my reptile room.....
http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...3/cimg2313.jpg
This is my diy rack that I put together...
Both racks work great and I have had no problems with either......:D
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Ella's tank is pretty simple compared to some of these - I'm jealous of a few! But Ella likes to mash plants so I did away with those....
[IMG]http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/...lascage003.jpg[/IMG]
And, just fyi, I do use an accurite to moniter temps and humidity. Ella just decided that it would be a perfect spot to leave a dump so it was removed for washing and was drying when I took the pic... :D
[IMG]http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/...5-21-11005.jpg[/IMG]
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Re: Show us your set-ups
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Originally Posted by evenstar
nice, what is that substrate ur using
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this is just a temporary tank since I brought my pastel with me I left the others at home......hmm wonder who my favorite is lol but this is just a 35 gallon tank that is currently falling apart plus looks bad with the flash on glass thats already not completely spotless
http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/...s_picture2.jpg
http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/...picture_11.jpg
that yellow tub was completely washed out and cleaned millions of times trust me I litteraly washed it over 30 times not kidding and then I put moss in there for his humidity hide for shedding whcih he is currently shedding right now the yellow tub is not used at home just needed something to bring while being away from home, ALSO you can not see it but there is a uth under the tank plugged into a controlled herpstat thing but its not being used right now since the room is sitting at 88 degrees :( yay for him horrible for me
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Re: Show us your set-ups
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Originally Posted by killerphade310
nice, what is that substrate ur using
Thanks! It is cypress mulch. Holds humidity pretty well... ;)
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Re: Show us your set-ups
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Originally Posted by SansCera
It looks as clean as an operating room! Your room is a benchmark for all herp keepers to aspire too.:gj:
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My rack, waiting on my bedroom to be finished so i can finish the rack to match.
http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/...6-16134151.jpg
http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/...6-16134414.jpg
Th coconut bed worked great in aquariums but holds too much humidity in the rack. Suggestions?
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Re: Show us your set-ups
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Originally Posted by Big Dave
It looks as clean as an operating room! Your room is a benchmark for all herp keepers to aspire too.:gj:
Thanks eh! That's a really nice compliment :oops:
I had alot of fun designing and building all of it :nerd:
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Re: Show us your set-ups
These are my 2 DIY snake tubs. They have been doing awesome so far, and my ball python loves her new tub. I have my female is in a 50qt (one on the right) the other is a 40qt and is awaiting my new addition. Wish i would have discovered how easy and cheap DIY tubs are earlier. I also have a DIY Rheostat hooked up to both heat pads, and it has been working great and keeping the temps just right.
http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/6...7082958962.jpg
We had a storm last night and not sure what happened, but when i woke up and check on the tub her heat pad wasnt working, it is now but thats why her warm side is a little cool.
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/514...7083044908.jpg
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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog
Does this count
SNIP
Now you are just showing off :-p
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Yeahh I have 4 too! But I've got 2 on display in my bedroom and another 2 in tubs on a shelf (waiting for more). So I was thinking tub shelves and setups pretty much all looks more or less similar. So I'll show everyone my display!
Firstly I apologize for the bad picture quality, I'd use my camera when I'm not rushing and my family is done with it, for now I have my phone and a few minutes. So basically I built my 2 display tanks into a cabinet. This is the entire cabinet.
http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/v...0620-00043.jpg
Each enclosure has 2 hides one on each side, and a water bowl and other things to fill it up a little. Fake plants fake wood. Substrate's aspen. Its glass on all sides, the back and sides have glass over the wood cabinet (just to keep the wood in good condition). Bottom is glass sitting on a wooden rim so a UTH is still possible.
http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/v...0620-00041.jpg
http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/v...0620-00038.jpg
Its good to have a cabinet like that to hide all the mess of spare stuff and whatever. Including CHE's which are on thermostats just in case ambient temps drop below 80F.
http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/v...0620-00044.jpg
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Re: Show us your set-ups
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Originally Posted by ogdentrece
yeahh i have 4 too! But i've got 2 on display in my bedroom and another 2 in tubs on a shelf (waiting for more). So i was thinking tub shelves and setups pretty much all looks more or less similar. So i'll show everyone my display!
Firstly i apologize for the bad picture quality, i'd use my camera when i'm not rushing and my family is done with it, for now i have my phone and a few minutes. So basically i built my 2 display tanks into a cabinet. This is the entire cabinet.
http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/v...0620-00043.jpg
each enclosure has 2 hides one on each side, and a water bowl and other things to fill it up a little. Fake plants fake wood. Substrate's aspen. Its glass on all sides, the back and sides have glass over the wood cabinet (just to keep the wood in good condition). Bottom is glass sitting on a wooden rim so a uth is still possible.
http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/v...0620-00041.jpg
http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/v...0620-00038.jpg
its good to have a cabinet like that to hide all the mess of spare stuff and whatever. Including che's which are on thermostats just in case ambient temps drop below 80f.
http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/v...0620-00044.jpg
real nice man:d
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Re: Show us your set-ups
all these pretty setups make me want to go out and buy a GTP or JCP and make a BA display cage for them (sorry i just dont like the idea of displaying a ball python that never leaves it hide) GTPs and JCPs at least sit out in the open... most of the time. all together love the set ups especially SanCera's that looks like a shed to me with all the insulation u got in there i would love to do that someday i would need to do a real good job of insulating a shed if i got one here in AZ
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Re: Show us your set-ups
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Originally Posted by RaltsXIV
If You dont like newspaper try shredded aspen.. If it's too dusty for ya or humidity stay too low use aspen sanichips That what I'm using...
On Topic.. I go with Reptile Basic rack... but Thinking about getting Carpet and then will go wild with setup :P
Some Pictures :
http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/...t/P1000578.jpg
http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/...t/P1000575.jpg
http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/...t/P1000576.jpg
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Aes_sidhe: Where could one get Aspen chips in Fairbanks, Alaska?
Awesome set ups everyone!!
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Re: Show us your set-ups
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Originally Posted by AkHerps
Aes_sidhe: Where could one get Aspen chips in Fairbanks, Alaska?
Awesome set ups everyone!!
I'm Ordering My from National Pet Pharmacy but Shipping Quotes to Alaska will probably kill You.. so Hmm Have no idea :(
Edit: Surprised Amazon Carry that stuff as well now and They could be cheaper with Shipping..
http://www.amazon.com/Native-Earth-B...8642063&sr=1-1
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Re: Show us your set-ups
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/236/20110615183922.jpg
Got my two normals in here right now. Just started building my first rack
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Originally Posted by freakie_frog
:o :gj:
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Re: Show us your set-ups
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Originally Posted by ogdentrece
Yeahh I have 4 too! But I've got 2 on display in my bedroom and another 2 in tubs on a shelf (waiting for more). So I was thinking tub shelves and setups pretty much all looks more or less similar. So I'll show everyone my display!
Firstly I apologize for the bad picture quality, I'd use my camera when I'm not rushing and my family is done with it, for now I have my phone and a few minutes. So basically I built my 2 display tanks into a cabinet. This is the entire cabinet.
http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/v...0620-00043.jpg
Each enclosure has 2 hides one on each side, and a water bowl and other things to fill it up a little. Fake plants fake wood. Substrate's aspen. Its glass on all sides, the back and sides have glass over the wood cabinet (just to keep the wood in good condition). Bottom is glass sitting on a wooden rim so a UTH is still possible.
http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/v...0620-00041.jpg
http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/v...0620-00038.jpg
Its good to have a cabinet like that to hide all the mess of spare stuff and whatever. Including CHE's which are on thermostats just in case ambient temps drop below 80F.
http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/v...0620-00044.jpg
dude that is smoooothh
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Re: Show us your set-ups
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Originally Posted by ahunt037
all these pretty setups make me want to go out and buy a GTP or JCP and make a BA display cage for them (sorry i just dont like the idea of displaying a ball python that never leaves it hide) GTPs and JCPs at least sit out in the open... most of the time. all together love the set ups especially SanCera's that looks like a shed to me with all the insulation u got in there i would love to do that someday i would need to do a real good job of insulating a shed if i got one here in AZ
Oh ditto totallyyy what i was thinking! GTP's have got to be one of the best display snakes. That and the Red Eyed Green Tree Frogs. Wow, perfect.
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Repurposed
OK, so here's what I have been using for about two weeks now and it works great so far. So I didn't want to waste the money I spent on the tank to jsut turn around and get rid of it. Instead, we took the steps to make the glass tank work. So here's my setup:
http://i354.photobucket.com/albums/r.../SnakeRack.jpg
Here's the deal... we orginally had the snakes in my daughter's room on top of her dresser. Then we were going out one day and someone down the street was throwing away a perfectly good baby changing table. So my wife said, "Hey, that would make a great self for the snakes!" So we picked it up, took it home, and painted it black letting it dry for a week. Then I reinforced the top shelf (the that holds the glass tank) and the second shelf so they can support the weight and not fall through. As far as the glass tank, I use the eco carpet (or whatever it's called) and covered the three sides with tinfoil which reflects the heat right back into the tank. The is also a UTH attached to the tank that is regulated with a digital thermastat from Hydrofarm. I also did the screentop treatment, but I did it to a piece of cardboard and that is what's on top of the tank. Temps and humidity are great but I got the humidity up because he is geting ready to shed. Right below the top shelf is a drawer that I keep all supplies like feeding tongs, cage cleaner, papertowels, ledger, etc. On the left side you can see where I attached both digital thermostats. On the next shelf down, I attached a UTH to the shelf itself. I actually put a doubled piece of tinfoil under the UTH and then taped the UTH to the shelf with the digital thermostat probe taped to the UTH. The very bottom shelf is for all of my extra stuff. I keep my replacement newspaper, the heat lamps that came with the tank and whatever else will fit neatly. The room itself stays at around 80 degrees. The setup is working really well so far and even looks nice in the room.
EDIT: I almost forgot the mention that that is a flashlight attached to the fron the setup.
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Re: Show us your set-ups
Here's mine. c:
(We're currently in the middle of building an enclosure for our RTB so she gets a tub for the time being. The bungees are there because she somehow Houdini-ed out of there the other day, still not sure how she did it :P )
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...uyakan/082.jpg
And I caught Loki out on a nightly stroll. :D (or on a nightly "escape planning" stroll)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...uyakan/086.jpg
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