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  • 07-20-2018, 08:45 PM
    Turbo Serpent
    Re: How leopard affect other genes
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JodanOrNoDan View Post
    From what I heard from Nerd, a "Super" Leopard was produced by someone, don't recall the name, but what is actually a homozygous dominant. No visual change, just produces 100% Leopards.

    Has something changed?

    I would say its along the lines of the super enchi, super banana, super ghi where the super doesn't change the appearance but merely the offspring are 100% visuals.

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  • 07-20-2018, 08:58 PM
    tttaylorrr
    Re: How leopard affect other genes
    and both are just so beautiful in their own rite.

    you and your babies are p much the reason i wanted to work with the Leopard gene, and why i chose one of your babies to be my Matriarch.

    you're an inspiration Deb!!!
  • 07-20-2018, 10:26 PM
    JodanOrNoDan
    Re: How leopard affect other genes
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Turbo Serpent View Post
    I would say its along the lines of the super enchi, super banana, super ghi where the super doesn't change the appearance but merely the offspring are 100% visuals.

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    All of those are co-doms.There is a visual difference in the "Supers". Leopard was dominant last time I heard.

    My snakes...

    Enchi...
    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...1/img_1079.jpg

    Super Enchi
    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil.../1/1800103.jpg
  • 07-20-2018, 10:59 PM
    Turbo Serpent
    Re: How leopard affect other genes
    I've never really noticed much of a difference between enchi and super enchi, I always thought it to be the same.

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  • 07-21-2018, 04:43 AM
    the_rotten1
    Amazing babies. I'm of the opinion that leopard makes everything better and this makes me want to add some lesser and coral glow to my collection. Your hatchlings are inspirational.
  • 07-21-2018, 10:04 AM
    Stewart_Reptiles
    Re: How leopard affect other genes
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by the_rotten1 View Post
    Amazing babies. I'm of the opinion that leopard makes everything better and this makes me want to add some lesser and coral glow to my collection. Your hatchlings are inspirational.

    Thanks, Leopard has definitely become one of my favorite gene to work with since buying my first one in 2012, now all I have to do is incorporate it in my Clown stuff (which is on the way since this year I did Pastel Leopard Clown X Leopard)
  • 07-22-2018, 05:34 AM
    ceh23
    Re: How leopard affect other genes
    Love the leopard morph and what it does. Awesome pics.


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  • 07-23-2018, 08:20 AM
    asplundii
    Re: How leopard affect other genes
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JodanOrNoDan View Post
    From what I heard from Nerd, a "Super" Leopard was produced by someone, don't recall the name, but what is actually a homozygous dominant. No visual change, just produces 100% Leopards.

    Has something changed?

    Graziani was the first to publicly comment on Leopard being a strict dominant type mutation with a homozygous that was not visually distinct from the heterozygous. He and I discussed it on ReptileRadio back in... I want to say early 2014.

    Kobylka has since put out a video wherein he said that he thinks there is a very subtle difference between the heterozygous and the homozygous, at least in some of the combos he has made. The trouble there is that all the animals he showed in the video were from Leo x Leo clutches and therefore only considered possibly homozygous and to the best of my knowledge neither he not anyone else has subsequently bred them out to confirm if his supposition was correct.
  • 07-23-2018, 04:15 PM
    Ax01
    Re: How leopard affect other genes
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Deborah View Post
    Leopard has been listed has Dominant since it first appeared however Super Leopard have been produced.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JodanOrNoDan View Post
    From what I heard from Nerd, a "Super" Leopard was produced by someone, don't recall the name, but what is actually a homozygous dominant. No visual change, just produces 100% Leopards.

    Has something changed?

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by asplundii View Post
    Graziani was the first to publicly comment on Leopard being a strict dominant type mutation with a homozygous that was not visually distinct from the heterozygous. He and I discussed it on ReptileRadio back in... I want to say early 2014.

    Kobylka has since put out a video wherein he said that he thinks there is a very subtle difference between the heterozygous and the homozygous, at least in some of the combos he has made. The trouble there is that all the animals he showed in the video were from Leo x Leo clutches and therefore only considered possibly homozygous and to the best of my knowledge neither he not anyone else has subsequently bred them out to confirm if his supposition was correct.

    i asked this awhile back: https://ball-pythons.net/forums/show...pard&p=2535369 and here's the vid:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3B85cLmNKM&t=

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Turbo Serpent View Post
    I would say its along the lines of the super enchi, super banana, super ghi where the super doesn't change the appearance but merely the offspring are 100% visuals.

    there are differences. i've noticed higher whites and softer colors overall in the Super Banana/Super CG and the Super GHI is super dark, looks to be in shed w/o the blue-ness.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Turbo Serpent View Post
    I've never really noticed much of a difference between enchi and super enchi, I always thought it to be the same.

    the pattern is cleaner, bolder but the biggest difference is in the eyestripe and neck pattern.
  • 08-01-2018, 03:57 AM
    Roux
    Re: How leopard affect other genes
    Wow that first banana looks like it has tri stripe in it! Very beautiful boy.

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