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  • 10-17-2016, 11:41 PM
    KingWheatley
    Re: Peanut Butter?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jillofthejungle View Post
    That is also not true. Apple seeds contain cyanide, not arsenic. And even though they contain cyanide they don't contain it at any dose that eating a whole apple core could kill a human. On top of that, you have to absorb cyanide at a rate faster than what your liver processes it to cause toxicity, which just cannot happen when your digest system has to take time breaking down the apple seed first.

    Oh yea that's my bad. I was thinking of Cyanide.

    There was a big commotion over an apple juice company with the FDA over the level of Poison (I thought it was arsenic though) in their batch. Not entirely positive how legitimate it was as I heard it by word of mouth so....


    Herp Derp
  • 10-17-2016, 11:44 PM
    jillofthejungle
    Re: Peanut Butter?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KingWheatley View Post
    Oh yea that's my bad. I was thinking of Cyanide.

    There was a big commotion over an apple juice company with the FDA over the level of Poison (I thought it was arsenic though) in their batch. Not entirely positive how legitimate it was as I heard it by word of mouth so....


    Herp Derp


    It's entirely possible that they had arsenic. Apples don't naturally produce that, it comes from some pesticides that are used. So a sloppy company could have arsenic in their juice, which might explain what you heard.
  • 10-18-2016, 12:00 AM
    highqualityballz
    Re: Peanut Butter?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KingWheatley View Post
    Found in apple seeds, right? I've heard that they are potent enough to kill you, but I've never heard of anyone dying from eating an apple core


    Herp Derp

    Your speaking of cyanide not arsenic. Bitter almonds and apricot kernels also contain small amounts of cyanide which if eaten in small smounts is safe and actually shown to kill cancer cells.
  • 10-18-2016, 04:41 AM
    Spiritserpents
    You mean the bitter almonds that come with a warning to not eat more than 8 a day or they can cause "cyanide-like symptoms"...? Yeah. That's brilliant. And did they show the ability to kill cancer cells in *vitro* or in vivo? Because TONS of things kill cancer in a petri dish and do diddly in a body... or are so toxic they kill the body, too.

    Also, GMOs are NOT going to hurt you. If I stuck genes that code for an apple protein into a peach, they aren't going to suddenly turn toxic and kill you. I could even stick genes that code for animal proteins into a vegetable and they wouldn't suddenly turn toxic and kill you. The protein is unchanged. If it doesn't hurt you in the original species, it won't hurt you in a different one.
  • 10-18-2016, 06:08 AM
    piedlover79
    If you can find local organic and talk to the famers you've got a better shot at pesticide reduced but that's not what you find in your average grocery store

    Apple seeds contain trace amounts of cyanide but you'd need to eat an orchard to kill ya. ;)
  • 10-18-2016, 10:35 AM
    highqualityballz
    Re: Peanut Butter?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Spiritserpents View Post
    You mean the bitter almonds that come with a warning to not eat more than 8 a day or they can cause "cyanide-like symptoms"...? Yeah. That's brilliant. And did they show the ability to kill cancer cells in *vitro* or in vivo? Because TONS of things kill cancer in a petri dish and do diddly in a body... or are so toxic they kill the body, too.

    Also, GMOs are NOT going to hurt you. If I stuck genes that code for an apple protein into a peach, they aren't going to suddenly turn toxic and kill you. I could even stick genes that code for animal proteins into a vegetable and they wouldn't suddenly turn toxic and kill you. The protein is unchanged. If it doesn't hurt you in the original species, it won't hurt you in a different one.

    Clearly you hace no clue what your talking about, do alittle research before speaking!
  • 10-18-2016, 11:44 AM
    highqualityballz
    Re: Peanut Butter?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by highqualityballz View Post
    Clearly you hace no clue what your talking about, do alittle research before speaking!

    Have*
  • 10-28-2016, 04:37 PM
    Trisnake
    Okay....

    Im not trying to get into an ideological war here but highqualityballz, maybe you should do some research as well. At least before telling people they don't know what they're talking about.

    The vast majority of studies on the topic have found the same thing; there is no significant difference in the health or rate of cancers of individuals eating strictly organic versus GMO. There is no significant difference in chemical make up or nutrient values between the two products. And many studies claiming otherwise have been found to be unsound or deeply flawed in their processes; one such flaw being that many people who dedicate themselves to strictly organic foods and products are health nuts to begin with, where as your average joe who eats regular priced GMO products may enjoy the occasional cigarette and probably doesn't frequent the gym as much as he should. Sample groups are a big part of the discrepancies.

    But to each their own. It really does come down to opinion, when there are so many contradicting studies. If people want to pay twice as much for an organic pear that's just as good as any other pear (in my opinion) then be my guest. If I end up dying from GMO induced cancer down the road (which I highly doubt) then that's my fault, and I'm okay with it.
  • 10-28-2016, 04:46 PM
    Zincubus
    Re: Food, Digestion, GMO and more.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by piedlover79 View Post
    There are a lot of nutritional myths out there (even the Food Pyramid was false information pushed on the government by grain, meat and dairy lobbyists). You need to take most of what people tell you with a grain of salt (pun intended).

    Organic food are the big misinformation generators these days. People think organic means no pesticides but what it really means is no *synthetic* pesticides. They still use naturally devised pesticides some of which are more dangerous and harmful to the environment than thier synthetic cousins.

    Natrual does not equal healthy. You know what is all natrual? Arsenic. ;)

    So true about all the duff information ' fed to us ' !

    Who'd of thought that eating fat doesn't make yah fat !?!

    Eating sugary things make you fat as the unused sugar is stored as fat apparently !!


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  • 10-28-2016, 05:03 PM
    piedlover79
    Re: Food, Digestion, GMO and more.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Zincubus View Post
    So true about all the duff information ' fed to us ' !

    Who'd of thought that eating fat doesn't make yah fat !?!

    Eating sugary things make you fat as the unused sugar is stored as fat apparently !!


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    Yup. The liver converts sugar into fatty acids (fat) and then into the body for storage. Eating fat also leads to fat storage and heart disease.

    So much info out there is pushed by politics not science.
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