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  • 06-24-2013, 03:52 AM
    Konotashi
    As far as the gray on the head question goes - I have no idea. I've looked that up, and it kinda seems like a roll of the dice kinda thing. You might get solid whites, you might get some with gray on the head.

    Keep in mind, you won't get all BELs. I think there's only a 25% chance of that. The others can be lessers, mojaves, and normals.
  • 06-24-2013, 03:55 AM
    TheSnakeGeek
    Re: Blue eye Lucy and black eye Lucy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Konotashi View Post
    Inexperienced, far from expert speaking here.

    But from my understanding, you can pair two mojaves and you may possibly get BELs, but are more likely to get ivories. (Or just ivories?)

    You can also pair lesser X lesser or butter X butter, but from what I've read, these are very likely to be bug eyed. If they're not born bug eyed, they can grow to be bug eyed.

    Lesser X Butter
    Mojave X Butter
    Mojave X Lesser

    I could be (more than likely am) wrong, so PLEASE feel free to correct me! Though I don't need to tell you guys that. ;)

    ivories are super yellow bellies. they don't have anything to do with the BEL complex. if you breed 2 mojaves, you'll get (statistically for each egg) 25% normals, 50% mojaves, and 25% BELs. the super mojaves (BEL) tend to have a gray head and aren't "pure" white.

    lesser, butter, mojave, het russo, and mocha are all part of the BEL complex and any of them bred to each other can produce blue eyed lucys.

    also, phantoms and mystics can be bred to lessers, butters, het russos, or mochas and produce BELs, but when bred to other phantoms or mystics (phantom x phantom/ mystic x mystic) they produce something totally different.
    http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/super-phantom/
    http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/super-mystic/

    when any of those two morphs that i said will produce a BEL are bred together, you get a 25% chance in each egg of a white snake popping out (the snake has both genes from parents).

    keep in mind it is widely accepted lesser and butter are the same morph, just from different origins. i wouldn't say lesser x lesser or butter x butter BELs are VERY likely to be bug eyed, but it does happen, so a lot of people will cross butter/lesser to a mojave to get the pure white snake without the gray head or bug eyes. het russo x het russo though will produce a pure white snake without (or at least not as prevalent as the butter/lesser x butter/lesser) bug eyes. if you do get a lesser/butter x lesser/butter hatchling with perfect eyes i don't believe (or at least haven't heard of) them developing bug eyes as they get older, but i have heard that some hatchlings born with the bug eyes tend to grow into them as they get bigger.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by timely.grace View Post
    what exactly is bug eyed? is it a serious deformation that shortens lifespan or more of an esthetic issue?

    their eyes stick out from their heads further than normal. it doesn't shorten their life span and they live normal lives. it is purely aesthetic.
  • 06-24-2013, 07:44 AM
    Peoples
    If you want c∕̴Ɩ clean Lucy, mohave to butter/lesser is c∕̴Ɩ good choice since butter/lesser tend to clean stuff up.S̶̲̥̅Ơ̴̴͡ I'd say you already have what you need to make c∕̴Ɩ solid white Lucy. Super mojos have grey heads.
  • 06-24-2013, 09:59 AM
    asplundii
    If you want the cleanest white snake out there then skip the BluEL group and look at the BlkEL group instead, preferably something like the ProExotic LemonBack line. As BluELs grow they all dirty up to some extent, developing a faint pattern and yellow tinge. The all-white BlkELs do not exhibit this tendency.

    Another possibility is to go for something like a Lesser Pied. These tend to be Pied-white, which is much more stark white than BluEL white
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