What do you think she is?

Call the power company you've got a brown out! <there should be a smiley for this but I cant find one.

Nice pastel it will look better after a fresh shed.

Mike

Pastels have there place in the Ball Python Morph world and thats great, but honestly to me this just confirms why I will only buy Super Pastels for my projects:(

Yup pastel. Should look better after shed.

From the patterns and colours, I am sure it is a pastel, just brown out but I believe it was much brighter last time when it is still a baby. Another way you can check is by looking at their eyes, pastel tend to have a yellowish eye and a normal have golden(near black). Hope this helps

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Pastels have there place in the Ball Python Morph world and thats great, but honestly to me this just confirms why I will only buy Super Pastels for my projects:(

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Just becuase it's a super, does not mean the babies will not brown out. Unless your saying all your pastel combos will be super. Which is a lot of work, but either way you will still get pastels, that always have a chance of browning out.

I think she's gorgeous. And, she'll look better after a fresh shed.

Yup, I've seen plenty of UGLY super pastels out there too.

Super pastel or regular, you just have to take your time picking out your breeding snakes, and take your time selecting holdbacks.

I've seen dozens and dozens of bumblebees [ Pastel Spiders ] most are nice, a few are ugly, but the one I remember I saw at a show back in December, She was solid yellow and white with pattern. Not a speck of cream, grey or tan on her. She was hands down the most incredible bee I've ever seen, and believe me if I'd had the $3K she'd have been mine.

It may take me another 5 years to find one like her, but I'm willing to wait.

On the other hand, I also saw a super pastel at that same show that was totally light brown, not a speck of yellow on it. Even though it was way below market value, it didn't sell all day, because it just wasn't a nice super.


Gale

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Unless your saying all your pastel combos will be super.

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Yeah thats what I'm saying...

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I also saw a super pastel at that same show that was totally light brown, not a speck of yellow on it.

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Sorry but if thats the case it wasn't a Super. It was just a Pastel. The guy might of had it listed as a Super but.... well thats what guys at shows do sometimes unfortunately;)

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Sorry but if thats the case it wasn't a Super. It was just a Pastel. The guy might of had it listed as a Super but.... well thats what guys at shows do sometimes unfortunately;)

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I disagree. There are incredibly ugly pastels and super pastels out there. If you breed two ugly pastels, most likely you will get an ugly super pastel. Just because it is a super doesnt mean it's pretty.

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I disagree. There are incredibly ugly pastels and super pastels out there. If you breed two ugly pastels, most likely you will get an ugly super pastel. Just because it is a super doesnt mean it's pretty.

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Cool... show me a pic of one so I can see what your talking about:)

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...d.php?t=199051

Second pic is a hatchling super. Even if it doesnt brown out AT ALL (which I highly doubt) it wont be a nice adult. Considering people dont normally advertise the ugliest animals they produce, if I can find this in a couple minutes of looking around Im sure there is much worse out there.