Regular Bulb vs Red Bulb

Ill spray some water on the hot side to raise it up some. I have a pretty large water dish on the cool side that probably should be smaller anyways. I was thinking of doing a hide on the cool side and a water hide in the center being its an aquarium setup.

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Originally Posted by mykee

Wrong.
Hot air rises.

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Dont be so rude. I know hot air rises. The problem is its not enough hot air from the uth to make the air temp as high as i need it. It escapes through the lid. Even if you cover 75% of the lid, the heat from the UTH still wont make the air temps high enough.

My snakes hide spot on the hot side should be trapping the heat in from the uth. Does that mean i shouldnt worry about raising the air temps outside of the hide even though its on the hot side?

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Originally Posted by SnakeKB

Ill spray some water on the hot side to raise it up some. I have a pretty large water dish on the cool side that probably should be smaller anyways. I was thinking of doing a hide on the cool side and a water hide in the center being its an aquarium setup.

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I would say just move the water dish to the hot side and see if the humidity rises on the hot side then lowers on the cool side. Also a Humidity Hide would be an excellent choice.

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Originally Posted by SnakeKB

Dont be so rude. I know hot air rises. The problem is its not enough hot air from the uth to make the air temp as high as i need it. It escapes through the lid. Even if you cover 75% of the lid, the heat from the UTH still wont make the air temps high enough.

My snakes hide spot on the hot side should be trapping the heat in from the uth. Does that mean i shouldnt worry about raising the air temps outside of the hide even though its on the hot side?

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If your normal room temperatures are above 75* then you don't need the lamp. As long as the air is around 75-80* you are good to go. The lamps are just a pain in the butt in my opinion. They burn out all the time and they significantly lower the humidity.

Make sure you have good digital thermometers that are at the snakes level reading the temps. Also make sure you have a digital probed thermometer right on the glass where the UTH is (under the substrate) to measure the hottest point the snake is getting too.


As for the original question yes, same watts same amount of heat.

Air temp is nowhere near as important as a hot spot for your ball to lie on.

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Originally Posted by mykee

Air temp is nowhere near as important as a hot spot for your ball to lie on.

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Wrong, a ball can live fine without a UTH, but try keeping one healthy without proper ambient temps.

I do give all of my balls belly heat, but it is not as important as the ambient temp in the enclosure.

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Originally Posted by snakesRkewl

Wrong, a ball can live fine without a UTH, but try keeping one healthy without proper ambient temps.

I do give all of my balls belly heat, but it is not as important as the ambient temp in the enclosure.

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I am going to agree with Mykee. If a ball python is provided with an adequate hot spot, ambient air temps can get pretty low without causing problems.

Eventually they'll stress out because the only place in their home that has adequate heat is the hot spot....Hmmm

I have kept ball pythons in 80 degree temps with no belly heat and no feeding issues for most of a year, try that with a cold tank and only belly heat :confused:

Well I have kept my snakes in a 70* room with a 92* hot spot for over a year with no problems.


There is no right or wrong answer to this.

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Originally Posted by Kaorte

Well I have kept my snakes in a 70* room with a 92* hot spot for over a year with no problems.


There is no right or wrong answer to this.

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70?

Are your tubs cool end temps at 70?