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  • 03-18-2010, 03:24 PM
    Andrew24
    Re: stingless bee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Turbo Serpent View Post
    I would guess something more like 5000 - 7500, but that is just my guess.

    i don't see them being 5,000-7,500.. i thats just me but that just seems like a lot.. when other animals that have the same amount of genes are no where near that much.. such as the killer bee which has 2 pastels genes and 1 spider gene... and those go anywhere from 1500-2000... and i bet i could find a bp with 4 genes that isn't even that much... but the killer queen although i have never seen one for sale has 2 pastels genes one lesser gene and one spider gene.. 4genes.. that whould be more in the 7,500 price rang.. prolly more like 10,000 lol. but idk i just don't see the singless bee being 7,500... maybe at the most 3,000.. but that would be the most in my opinon..
  • 03-18-2010, 03:29 PM
    Turbo Serpent
    Re: stingless bee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Andrew24 View Post
    i don't see them being 5,000-7,500.. i thats just me but that just seems like a lot.. when other animals that have the same amount of genes are no where near that much.. such as the killer bee which has 2 pastels genes and 1 spider gene... and those go anywhere from 1500-2000... and i bet i could find a bp with 4 genes that isn't even that much... but the killer queen although i have never seen one for sale has 2 pastels genes one lesser gene and one spider gene.. 4genes.. that whould be more in the 7,500 price rang.. prolly more like 10,000 lol. but idk i just don't see the singless bee being 7,500... maybe at the most 3,000.. but that would be the most in my opinon..

    Killer bee is 2 genes. 1 heterozygous (spider) and 1 homozygous (super pastel).
    Killer Queen is 3 genes. 2 heterozygous (lesser and spider) and 1 homozygous (super pastel)

    A 3 gene animal is worth more, let alone the 3 genes. The more expensive the genes in the combo the more expensive the combo.

    The Killer Clown is selling for 25k that is only a 2 gene animal... It all depends on the genes involved and how many are available on the market. :gj:
  • 03-18-2010, 03:31 PM
    Aes_Sidhe
    Re: stingless bee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Turbo Serpent View Post
    Killer bee is 2 genes. 1 heterozygous (spider) and 1 homozygous (super pastel).
    Killer Queen is 3 genes. 2 heterozygous (lesser and spider) and 1 homozygous (super pastel)

    A 3 gene animal is worth more, let alone the 3 genes. The more expensive the genes in the combo the more expensive the combo.

    The Killer Clown is selling for 25k that is only a 2 gene animal... It all depends on the genes involved and how many are available on the market. :gj:

    Stupid Question What is Killer Clown ?? Any link to picture??
    Thanks
  • 03-18-2010, 03:34 PM
    Russ Lawson
    Re: stingless bee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Aes_Sidhe View Post
    Stupid Question What is Killer Clown ?? Any link to picture??
    Thanks

    Super pastel clown... google has pictures...
  • 03-18-2010, 03:36 PM
    Aes_Sidhe
    Re: stingless bee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Russ Lawson View Post
    Super pastel clown... google has pictures...

    Thanks Russ. I know how it looks i just don't know that they call it Killer Clown :)
  • 03-18-2010, 03:39 PM
    Andrew24
    Re: stingless bee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Turbo Serpent View Post
    Killer bee is 2 genes. 1 heterozygous (spider) and 1 homozygous (super pastel).
    Killer Queen is 3 genes. 2 heterozygous (lesser and spider) and 1 homozygous (super pastel)

    A 3 gene animal is worth more, let alone the 3 genes. The more expensive the genes in the combo the more expensive the combo.

    The Killer Clown is selling for 25k that is only a 2 gene animal... It all depends on the genes involved and how many are available on the market. :gj:

    i have to disagree with that lol.. well not all of it but the killer bee does not have just 2 genes.. each pastel gene is 1 gene.. so a super pastel is 2 genes.. becuase it takes 2 pastel genes to make a super pastel.... same with hets... becuase the pastel is only the het of the super pastel... so if you have a het that is one gene... so the clown would have 2 genes and then 2 more genes for the super pastel which is 4 genes (if we were talking bout the killer clown).... im not just making this up .. i say it cuzz thats what i learnd from other people on here and people on my youtube.. and it just makes more sence.. otherwise my pastel i have doesn't even have 1 gene... but yeah i do agree with what you said bout how many are available haveing a say in the price tag...
  • 03-18-2010, 03:45 PM
    Turbo Serpent
    Re: stingless bee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Andrew24 View Post
    i have to disagree with that lol.. well not all of it but the killer bee does not have just 2 genes.. each pastel gene is 1 gene.. so a super pastel is 2 genes.. becuase it takes 2 pastel genes to make a super pastel.... same with hets... becuase the pastel is only the het of the super pastel... so if you have a het that is one gene... so the clown would have 2 genes and then 2 more genes for the super pastel which is 4 genes (if we were talking bout the killer clown).... im not just making this up .. i say it cuzz thats what i learnd from other people on here and people on my youtube.. and it just makes more sence.. otherwise my pastel i have doesn't even have 1 gene... but yeah i do agree with what you said bout how many are available haveing a say in the price tag...

    The super pastel is 1 gene it is just homozygous. And as far as breeding goes it only contributes 1 gene, and the more there are in combo the more worth it has.
  • 03-18-2010, 03:48 PM
    Aes_Sidhe
    Re: stingless bee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Andrew24 View Post
    i have to disagree with that lol.. well not all of it but the killer bee does not have just 2 genes.. each pastel gene is 1 gene.. so a super pastel is 2 genes.. becuase it takes 2 pastel genes to make a super pastel.... same with hets... becuase the pastel is only the het of the super pastel... so if you have a het that is one gene... so the clown would have 2 genes and then 2 more genes for the super pastel which is 4 genes (if we were talking bout the killer clown).... im not just making this up .. i say it cuzz thats what i learnd from other people on here and people on my youtube.. and it just makes more sence.. otherwise my pastel i have doesn't even have 1 gene... but yeah i do agree with what you said bout how many are available haveing a say in the price tag...

    Hmm I'm not an expert but i think Pastel/ Super pastel i one gene... Pastel is just visual het for super/pastel and super/pastel is just homozygous form of pastel.. I'm getting lost LOL. but this is how it works in Co-dom morphs I think. In Dominant morphs like Spider you Can have Super/Spider as well is a homozygous form of Spider Gene Is just not visual and You can't tell with one is with but still this is the same gene different alleles
    So i Agree that killer bee is 2 gene mutation.

    P.S.
    Sorry I know my English suck ;) even after 5 years i US LOL
  • 03-18-2010, 06:49 PM
    MKHerps
    Re: stingless bee
    There have not been many enchi crossed done yet. You dont see these crosses everyday. A stingless bee is going to run upwards $5000 if you can even find someone willing to let go of one. An lesser bee is around $1700-$2000, add the enchi to that and you judt added a couple thousand more. It is not that easy to hit three genes in one so when you do those animals go for more.
  • 03-18-2010, 09:06 PM
    TessadasExotics
    Re: stingless bee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Turbo Serpent View Post
    Killer bee is 2 genes. 1 heterozygous (spider) and 1 homozygous (super pastel).
    Killer Queen is 3 genes. 2 heterozygous (lesser and spider) and 1 homozygous (super pastel)

    A 3 gene animal is worth more, let alone the 3 genes. The more expensive the genes in the combo the more expensive the combo.

    The Killer Clown is selling for 25k that is only a 2 gene animal... It all depends on the genes involved and how many are available on the market. :gj:

    The clowns are more expensive because they are recessive. Recessive gened animals the female is more expensive and in co-dom and dom animals the male is more expensive.
    I count clowns as 2genes as it takes one het gene from each parent to make it. I also count pastel as 1gene and super pastels as being two (same as het you need one gene from each parent).
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