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lesserbee X bumblebee?

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  • 10-23-2009, 01:36 AM
    Kryptonian
    Re: lesserbee X bumblebee?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bads15 View Post
    don't forget killerbee

    you wouldnt get a killer bee. Killers are super pastel spiders and there is only one pastel gene available with this combo.

    from my genetic calculator\\Male = Lesser, Spider
    Female = Bumblebee

    Offspring predicted as:

    ---------------------------------------------------
    6.25% Normal
    6.25% Lesser
    12.50% Spider
    12.50% Lesser, Spider
    6.25% Pastel
    6.25% Pastel, Lesser
    12.50% Bumblebee
    12.50% Queenbee
    6.25% Homozygous Spider
    6.25% Lesser, Homozygous Spider
    6.25% Pastel, Homozygous Spider
    6.25% Pastel, Lesser, Homozygous Spider


    no killers:(
  • 10-23-2009, 01:36 AM
    Oxylepy
    Re: lesserbee X bumblebee?
    I thought some guy had a super spider male that he has bred off a few dozen times ith all offspring being bees...
  • 10-23-2009, 12:09 PM
    dr del
    Re: lesserbee X bumblebee?
    Hi,

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Oxylepy View Post
    I thought some guy had a super spider male that he has bred off a few dozen times ith all offspring being bees...

    Not that I remember reading about off hand (not that this means anything you understand :P ).

    Could you be thinking about Brian from BHB having a possibly homozygous pinstripe?


    dr del
  • 10-23-2009, 04:29 PM
    OhhWatALoser
    Re: lesserbee X bumblebee?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pfan151 View Post
    I see this written quite often, but has ANYONE ever proven this to be the case? If so could you please post a name? I would really like to hear more about this topic.

    its not the fact than anyone proved it, its the fact that spiders have been around for 10 years now, and still not 1 homozygous spider
  • 10-24-2009, 09:49 PM
    bads15
    Re: lesserbee X bumblebee?
    Quote:

    you wouldnt get a killer bee. Killers are super pastel spiders and there is only one pastel gene available with this combo.
    your right. i forgot that there was no pastel in lesser bee. ha,ha. my bad.
  • 10-24-2009, 09:58 PM
    CoolioTiffany
    Re: lesserbee X bumblebee?
    Since a Spider is dominant, I think that homozygous Spider is just your regular Spider. I forgot where I read that there were Super Spiders, but they didn't survive in the egg?? Sometime in the future I'm going to do Spider x Spider and see what happens (I think I'll just get 75% Spiders and 25% normals).
  • 10-24-2009, 10:00 PM
    joepythons
    Re: lesserbee X bumblebee?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CoolioTiffany View Post
    Since a Spider is dominant, I think that homozygous Spider is just your regular Spider. I forgot where I read that there were Super Spiders, but they didn't survive in the egg?? Sometime in the future I'm going to do Spider x Spider and see what happens (I think I'll just get 75% Spiders and 25% normals).

    A spider to spider would result in no normals.
  • 10-24-2009, 11:03 PM
    dr del
    Re: lesserbee X bumblebee?
    Hi,

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by joepythons View Post
    A spider to spider would result in no normals.

    Not sure I'm following you here?

    I agree that a homozygous spider to ... well, frankly, anything... would result in no normals.

    But with nobody so far having owned up to having a homozygous spider most people reading spider to spider in a breeding question would give the same answer Tif did by assuming both spiders were only heterozygous.

    Where it gets intresting is that, if homozygous spiders do die before hatching, then even those results would be innaccurate and the real ratio of hatchlings from fertile eggs would be;

    66.6% spider (heterozygous )
    33.3% normal wild type

    And to be honest I think finding those ratios in a statistically large sample and using ultrasound to compare number of unfertilized follicles and comparing it to the number of fertile eggs laid will be the only way we ever find out if homozygous spider is lethal or not.

    I just wish I owned some to be able to try it for myself. :please:


    dr del
  • 10-25-2009, 12:10 AM
    joepythons
    Re: lesserbee X bumblebee?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dr del View Post
    Hi,



    Not sure I'm following you here?

    I agree that a homozygous spider to ... well, frankly, anything... would result in no normals.

    But with nobody so far having owned up to having a homozygous spider most people reading spider to spider in a breeding question would give the same answer Tif did by assuming both spiders were only heterozygous.

    Where it gets intresting is that, if homozygous spiders do die before hatching, then even those results would be innaccurate and the real ratio of hatchlings from fertile eggs would be;

    66.6% spider (heterozygous )
    33.3% normal wild type

    And to be honest I think finding those ratios in a statistically large sample and using ultrasound to compare number of unfertilized follicles and comparing it to the number of fertile eggs laid will be the only way we ever find out if homozygous spider is lethal or not.

    I just wish I owned some to be able to try it for myself. :please:


    dr del

    To me a normal is a plain old normal like those sold in pet stores :gj:
  • 10-25-2009, 01:07 AM
    marct
    Re: lesserbee X bumblebee?
    Has anyone on here ever personally tried the spider x spider project?
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