Is this Normal from a known breeder?

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Originally Posted by DrDooLittle

Obviously you do, otherwise why did YOU need to post that in response to my post?

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I said I like this forum and don't have a problem with anyone on it and would like to keep it this way.... It doesn't need to be read into any more than what I said. It wasn't confrontational at all. My point is that I'm not trying to get into a debate or fight with anyone. I just feel this whole situation could have been avoided by not bringing the breeder's name into it without the OP's consent from the start. I am not passive-aggressive nor do I make snippy comments. You're reading my words and putting your own inflection on it, and there is no attitude there. I made the statement in its purest form, so please don't get defensive over what I said.

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Originally Posted by DrDooLittle

Nope, I'm good. Just pointing out that I don't care what people on the internet think. You can like me or not, I don't care. I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.

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Hey now, this is veritably plagerism Wench. Of course, it's the good kind, but still...

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Originally Posted by wilomn

Wench

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Lol....a term I use at least twice a day.

I agree that Garrick should post the emails regarding the OP telling him to ship anyways. Until thats done, there is no evidence of that happening other than Garricks word.

Funny how when the OP posts originally, everyone is demanding he post EVERY and ALL details about his transaction, and yet when Garrick comes on and only provides a story of what happened, with NO proof at all, people are like, "Thanks Garrick for clearing that up!"

Im not saying Garrick is lying. Dont get me wrong, i highly doubt one of the biggest breeders in North America would tarnish the reputation he built over the years over one silly transaction like this. What i am saying is people shouldnt be treated differently in a case like this, just because they are a bigger name in the industry. This thread should be on the BOI anyways but just like on there, BOTH parties should have to include all email transactions as proof for others to read. Otherwise its just "his word against his"...


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Not all people feel the need to defend their reputation on the Internet. I personally don't think Garrick should feel the need to waste his valuable time posting emails sent between himself and the op to satisfy some of those on this thread.

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Originally Posted by wilomn

If you send me a PM, without checking first to see if I'm willing to keep what you send me private, you have made the huge mistake of ASSuming I will not share as I see fit what you have sent.

The person pm'd was under no obligation, that I know of, to keep anything a secret.

This was not blown out of proportion, it actually brought to light some of the intricacies of online selling and buying, how important it is to READ a seller's TOS and how to answer questions without making it seem like you're hiding facts that are pertinent to the problem. The OP failed to provide what was needed to be of assistance to him. The OP muddled through this half-heartedly. Blaming those who tried to help is hardly fair.

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THANK YOU! As many people that were asking "WHO WHO WHO", I am not going to feel bad for posting Garrick's name. I could care less what the OP wished for when he sent the information to me (someone he's never interacted with), people deserve to know especially after the claims the OP was making.
Once again, I have nothing against Garrick, but it's not like it's some special friend that you don't want to talk bad about. He's a businessman, who runs a business. People are free to discuss their experiences with breeders, and that's that.

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Originally Posted by BCBallPythons

I agree that Garrick should post the emails regarding the OP telling him to ship anyways. Until thats done, there is no evidence of that happening other than Garricks word.

Funny how when the OP posts originally, everyone is demanding he post EVERY and ALL details about his transaction, and yet when Garrick comes on and only provides a story of what happened, with NO proof at all, people are like, "Thanks Garrick for clearing that up!"

Im not saying Garrick is lying. Dont get me wrong, i highly doubt one of the biggest breeders in North America would tarnish the reputation he built over the years over one silly transaction like this. What i am saying is people shouldnt be treated differently in a case like this, just because they are a bigger name in the industry. This thread should be on the BOI anyways but just like on there, BOTH parties should have to include all email transactions as proof for others to read. Otherwise its just "his word against his"...


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Well the OP didn't give all the information to begin with. That's shady. Garrick hasn't said/done anything shady. We saw an e-mail he sent to someone else, and he even came here and explained his side. He doesn't really need to do anything else unless the OP claims that he's lying. The OP hasn't returned so it seems Garrick has the last word. The ball is on the OP's court, but I don't think any should hold their breath :P.

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Originally Posted by Seanjackmc

Not all people feel the need to defend their reputation on the Internet. I personally don't think Garrick should feel the need to waste his valuable time posting emails sent between himself and the op to satisfy some of those on this thread.

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You must not really understand the business side of the industry. Reputation is everything. Good reputation means people feel safe buying your snakes. How do you gain reputation in the reptile industry? Well I don't see any commercials on TV for BHB or LLLReptile.... I only see youtube videos, BOI threads, reputation points, friendly and well-thought out forum posts, and Facebook "Likes" with positive comments... These are all things you only find on the Internet.

I think getting Garrick involved and releasing his name was the right thing to do. It clears up confusion of the OP's original question if we know the exact details of the transaction.
Assuming Garrick is in the right, we originally thought the breeder was wrong and a crook based on the OPs word. If Garrick proves his emails(something the OP refused to screen shot), then we know that the OP is the one negated the TOS. This changes everything... Without all the details we would be pushing the OP for a full refund or a replacement animal...

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Originally Posted by Seanjackmc

Haha "I don't give a rip if you have a problem with me." Sounds like you need a hug.

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No problem!
Lots of people want to give Doolittle a hug! :3
*hug Doolittle *

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Originally Posted by satomi325

Lots of people want to give Doolittle a hug! :3
*hug Doolittle *

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Don't we all? :)

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Originally Posted by Rob

Don't we all? :)

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Exactly. ;)

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