New Yellowbelly

Good luck with your snake. If it were me I would return it but if you are convinced that it is a YB I guess there is nothing anyone can say to change your mind. I would recommend sending some of the belly pics to a few big breeders and get their opinion. There are quite a few that are sponsors on this site. I can guarantee you that they know more than this pet store owner, me, and anyone else posting in this thread about Ball python morphs. I am sure a few of them would be willing to give your opinion.

I would also maybe pic up a normal female and try breeding him to her this year. You can get good quality breeder female normals for about $100 now. That should clear up any questions, and if it proves to not be a yellowbelly at least you won't waste your ivory on breeding a normal.

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Originally Posted by piper

Not all have yellowbellies

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Actually they dont have yellowbellies at all. Now you get a yellowish tint on the sides of the belly mixed in the the checkered pattern but other then that they aren't yellow. Atleast I have never seen one. You need to have the flames, belly pattern(kinda checkered look along the edges of the belly), and the head spot(which I am not all that sure is a very good marker anyways), oh yeah and also a YB pattern seems busier if that makes any sense.

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Originally Posted by joepythons

So Amir now runs pet shops :confused:.This is ANOTHER one of those threads that the OP does not like the truth and refuses to admit they got jacked :weirdface.O well who cares have fun with your NORMAL ball python :gj:

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Big Gunns to the rescue here, but first let him straighten out one of his future fans Joey.:D

Yes you are "confused" Joey. Big Gunns has been to two pet shops of Amir's in South Florida quite a few times(the first time so long ago Amir had hair):D. Coincidentally, to pick up some Yellowbellies once or twice. He sold the Snakes at Sunset location a few years ago, but still had the other Big Gunns went to last year. He may have sold it by now, since BG did hear some rumors of business issues. He had some bizz up in Gainseville also and would travel back and forth all the time.


As far as this statement...."O well who cares have fun with your NORMAL ball python :gj:". Let me ask everyone this. Is Joey being a meanie here? How would you like it if Joey said this to you? Joey should be the one that's giving an "apology" in Big Gunns opinion. Poor guy may have got "jacked" and you're rubbing it in his face Joey. Such a nice guy you are.

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Originally Posted by joepythons

He said Amir was this guys boss though in post 47 :confused:

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Yep....you're still "confused" Joey, and trying to cover up your obvious blunder. If Amir owns the shop, Amir could be his boss.

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Originally Posted by ralphdp21

You are very confused my friend. First off his name is not Joe Amir. It's Amir Soleymani, so I think we are talking about two different people with the same occupation. I could be mistaken on this but thats the name that this guy said.

And I made it pretty damn clear that my camera sucks.

And as far as getting upset at other members, I never was. If anything I am upset at myself for not being smarter in this transaction.



I think you guys are talking about some one else.




Well I have a FEMALE Ivory that should be ready to breed next year. The new snake that I got is a MALE for sure, 100% positive I saw him pop and probe it in front of me. He made it damn clear its a yellowbelly.

On post 47 I posted some pictures of different snake. Who can identify the Yellowbelly?

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"Joe Amir":rofl::rofl: Big GUnns is gonna call him that next time he sees him.:rofl::rofl:

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Originally Posted by Failshed

Amir actually still owns a shop here in Miami. It's just not on sunset. The name is "Snakes". On u.s. 1 and 180th if I recall. Don't really remember the location. I don't do business with him.

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Somebody that knows what they're talking about shows up.:gj:

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Originally Posted by joepythons

Remarks like this WILL get future questions ignored ;).We will be watching for your apology :gj:

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How about yours for being WWWRRRROOOONNNGGGG....and then being a meanie by saying "good luck with your normal". That was totally uncalled for and would get any original OP upset.

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Originally Posted by ralphdp21

He took it personally. :O



My homework actually turned out to be correct. He is a yellow belly, the guy who sold it to me just finished proving it to me, i got back from the pet store. So this thread is officially over.

Thank you all for your opinions, I do mean that, and for those that took any of my comments personally, I apologize, but I have realized that I over estimated these forums. You can't get all your answers through the internet.

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Joey can be kinda sensitive when he's WRONG!!!!!!:D


Your last statement could not possibly be more true. :gj: Although everyone here was just trying to help you out...well most of them...some were just trying to be "right"....and were being a meanie.:taz:

Big Gunns will say this to everyone...and without the third person.

I have seen as many yellowbellies as anyone on this forum(hundreds...maybe over one thousand). His snake does not look like one(although from the top it does look like some adults), but I have been shown snakes by both Amir and Ian that don't look like them either, and have been in fact "yellowbellies"(proved to be by breeding). Although I would never buy this snake as one, it could in fact be one. I would need to buy it directly from Amir or Ian though. They would need to look me in the Gunns and say "yep...it's a yellowbelly". If they have the guts to do that....I'd believe them;):D

It's easy to see why this thread went bad. Some people were not the nicest to someone who may have just got ripped off. Think about it for a second. All of us are just people on the net. This is a respected store where he's talking to an actual person who works for the person that named the "Yellowbelly". That's kinda like buying a computer from someone who works for Bill Gates. Who would you believe?

Maybe he shouldn't have got so upset(he did apologize for it...so should someone else), but I'm trying to put myself in his position. He just spent two hours talking to the guys that work for Amir about why it's a yellowbelly, and everyone is still telling him he was ripped off....... And some people doing it in an "not so nicey nice" manner. He can take the word of the people on the net(some(one) of them who were meanies) or he take the word of the store who's owner named the Morph. If you were him, and didn't know much yourself, who would you believe?

If it will make everyone feel better, BG(he's back) can personally call Amir and ask him about this snake. You'll have to remind BG though, he's getting kinda senile lately.:D

ps. Since Joey has BG on ignore, there no reason for him to get upset for BG pointing out how he was WWWRROOONNNGGG(and a meanie) and then got upset about it.:D:D


Why didn't BG show up earlier to save the day here?:D

Thank you BG! I try to chime in only when I know.

To the OP. Did you ever prove this snake out?

I dont know, everybody els says it doesnt look like a yellowbelly but I think it may be just a bad example of one. But who am I? Ok, wow this post is very old.

Reading through this whole thread was very entertaining. Especially Big Gunns talking in 3rd person, well actually that was sorta weird lol. But ya anyways the original snake doesnt look like a yb imo, but very well could be. There are crappy examples of every morph out there but with some of the more subtle morphs, i think its just harder to tell. Im eager to see the OP prove him out...
Edit: lol nm didnt realize how old this thread was...

Agree I'm curious if he ever got some ivories ;).

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WOW...didn't realize this was an old thread.... But interesting none the less. It didn't look like a YB to me either. But if it was, then it was a low low grade one...