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  • 11-01-2017, 12:43 PM
    baldegale
    Heat panels
    hello! im looking into heat panels and wanted to know suggestions and pricing? just trying to get prepared for when i get my BP


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  • 11-01-2017, 12:44 PM
    robert7107
    Re: Heat panels
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by baldegale View Post
    hello! im looking into heat panels and wanted to know suggestions and pricing? just trying to get prepared for when i get my BP


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    Talk too Bob at pro products!
    I asked a similar question and people raved about Bob.... Very knowledgeable fellow an loves too chat won't rush you off the phone

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  • 11-01-2017, 12:48 PM
    tttaylorrr
    there's Pro Products and Reptile Basics RHPs, that i know of.

    i have an RHP from Reptile Basics and it works great. some people have had issues with them in the past (something about plastic smell?? i can't remember) but i have not had any problems. i don't have experience with Pro Products but i've never seen a bad review for them.
  • 11-01-2017, 12:56 PM
    baldegale
    Re: Heat panels
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by robert7107 View Post
    Talk too Bob at pro products!
    I asked a similar question and people raved about Bob.... Very knowledgeable fellow an loves too chat won't rush you off the phone

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    i looked into those but i didnt see any prices on their website for RHP and i just wanted a general idea on how expensive they are


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  • 11-01-2017, 12:59 PM
    robert7107
    Re: Heat panels
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by baldegale View Post
    i looked into those but i didnt see any prices on their website for RHP and i just wanted a general idea on how expensive they are


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    Ya they don't have a price list you have too call an ask unfortunately..
    Just let him know size of enclosure, room temperature an type of animal he will suggest what you need
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  • 11-01-2017, 12:59 PM
    Starscream
    You have to call Bob about it -- they don't list the prices on their website. He'll pick out what's best for you and your animal based on your enclosure and ambient temperatures, and probably a bunch of other stuff. I wouldn't know, since I don't have one, but if you want to make any headway with Pro Products you do have to call them (which is instant TERROR for me but i'll have to get over it and call him eventually lol)
  • 11-01-2017, 01:01 PM
    tttaylorrr
    Re: Heat panels
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Starscream View Post
    (which is instant TERROR for me but i'll have to get over it and call him eventually lol)

    (this is the only reason i went with RBI LOL)
  • 11-01-2017, 01:03 PM
    robert7107
    Re: Heat panels
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tttaylorrr View Post
    (this is the only reason i went with RBI LOL)

    Was the reason I was going to as well.. but glad I did call.... Bob likes to chat an rant...lol
    I haven't ordered mine yet but know what I'm getting from Portland products when I do...

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  • 11-01-2017, 01:04 PM
    Starscream
    Re: Heat panels
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tttaylorrr View Post
    (this is the only reason i went with RBI LOL)

    (the sad thing is i do 100% excellent on phones, i have awesome cadence, it's just PICKING UP THE PHONE it makes me so dang anxious asklajkdsla. i spend days agonizing over phone calls bc i hate making them lol. so dumb.)
  • 11-01-2017, 01:05 PM
    SDA
    I have one from Reptile Basics (RBI) that I just installed and I can guarantee there is no off gassing, cracking, warping, or plastic smell from these at all. That is a myth.. If your enclosure is 4 feet by 2 feet the 80 watt is perfect if you use the entire enclosure. These are high quality extremely safety oriented products and super light weight.
  • 11-01-2017, 01:06 PM
    robert7107
    Re: Heat panels
    RBI isn't bad either I just like what Bob had to say plus what other people have said ..
    I'm getting p11 2 feet by 12 inch 88 Watts and shipping and everything its 115 bucks

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  • 11-01-2017, 01:08 PM
    tttaylorrr
    Re: Heat panels
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by robert7107 View Post
    Was the reason I was going to as well.. but glad I did call.... Bob likes to chat an rant...lol

    that does make me feel better about it if i ever need to get another RHP. i'm just an incredibly anxious person LOL.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Starscream View Post
    (the sad thing is i do 100% excellent on phones, i have awesome cadence, it's just PICKING UP THE PHONE it makes me so dang anxious asklajkdsla. i spend days agonizing over phone calls bc i hate making them lol. so dumb.)

    (SAME, ALL OF IT hahaha)
  • 11-01-2017, 01:20 PM
    jmcrook
    Re: Heat panels
    You can email Bob too. I also hate talking on the phone because it makes me irrationally anxious. Bob's always gotten back to me within a day or so. I've got three panels from him and couldn't recommend them more


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  • 11-01-2017, 01:26 PM
    baldegale
    Re: Heat panels
    makes me feel at home knowing im not the only one that gets freakish anxiety when i have to make any phone calls LOL i was also considering eventually buying a mister from pro products for my 8’x4’ tortoise enclosure


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  • 11-01-2017, 01:28 PM
    baldegale
    Re: Heat panels
    although starting i think im going to use a UTH because i think im going to start out with a 40 gal breeder so that saves a chunk of money


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  • 11-01-2017, 01:36 PM
    Starscream
    UTH's do nothing for air temps, so you'll probably have to add supplementary heat like a CHE, unless the room you plan on keeping the snake in is already around 80-85 degrees.
  • 11-01-2017, 01:49 PM
    baldegale
    Re: Heat panels
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Starscream View Post
    UTH's do nothing for air temps, so you'll probably have to add supplementary heat like a CHE, unless the room you plan on keeping the snake in is already around 80-85 degrees.

    yeah i know, i have an ample supply of CHEs cause i use two of them to heat my tortoise tank, during the summer i dont know if ill need to use them or not cause normally my room is 80-85 but im moving into a house in a few weeks and have no idea how its going to work


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  • 11-01-2017, 02:01 PM
    robert7107
    Re: Heat panels
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by baldegale View Post
    hello! im looking into heat panels and wanted to know suggestions and pricing? just trying to get prepared for when i get my BP


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    Reason why you don't want to use racks?
    I have my BP in c serpents sub-adult 28qt an cb 70.. both three tubs ..

    $310 for CB 70 with tubs shipped
    305 for subadult with tubs shipped


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  • 11-01-2017, 02:09 PM
    KevinK
    Re: Heat panels
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by robert7107 View Post
    Reason why you don't want to use racks?
    I have my BP in c serpents sub-adult 28qt an cb 70.. both three tubs ..

    $310 for CB 70 with tubs shipped
    305 for subadult with tubs shipped


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    I don't know about the OP's exact scenario but I avoid racks because I don't have the option to heat my room to 78-80 degrees year round.....which is why I personally went with PVC cages and RHP's (ProProducts is awesome btw).
  • 11-01-2017, 02:11 PM
    baldegale
    Re: Heat panels
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by robert7107 View Post
    Reason why you don't want to use racks?
    I have my BP in c serpents sub-adult 28qt an cb 70.. both three tubs ..

    $310 for CB 70 with tubs shipped
    305 for subadult with tubs shipped


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    just dont have the money currently when i do have the money, (soon whenever i can get a job) im going to get an AP t8 or bigger enclosure! i already have the 40 breeder on hand from my bearded dragon and im building him a new enclosure out of scrap wood from my tortoise tank


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  • 11-01-2017, 02:12 PM
    robert7107
    Re: Heat panels
    Ya. It can be costly
  • 11-01-2017, 02:16 PM
    baldegale
    Re: Heat panels
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by robert7107 View Post
    Ya. It can be costly

    most definitely, i know what they need and i fully plan on getting a bigger tank when i can which will hopefully be within the next few months. im just trying to save money where i can right now


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  • 11-01-2017, 02:17 PM
    baldegale
    Re: Heat panels
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KevinK View Post
    I don't know about the OP's exact scenario but I avoid racks because I don't have the option to heat my room to 78-80 degrees year round.....which is why I personally went with PVC cages and RHP's (ProProducts is awesome btw).

    if i was staying where i am currently i totally would, but im moving to a completely new area and from an apartment to a house thats brand new so i dont have the slightest clue as to how the circulation is going to work


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  • 11-01-2017, 02:23 PM
    Mr. Misha
    Re: Heat panels
    I have two Pro Products panels(came with the used AP T12 enclosure I bought) and three RBI that I bought brand new.

    Haven't had a problem with any of them but personally prefer RBI panels since I've met the owners at reptile shows and buy mot of my supplies from them.
  • 11-01-2017, 03:43 PM
    SiXandSeven8ths
    +1 for Pro Products
    Purchased 2 panels on 2 separate occasions. Pleasant ranting but I don't mind the banter, eases my phone anxiety when the person I'm calling is genuine. I had them shipped to AP for installation and haven't had any issues. Will do business with again.
  • 11-01-2017, 04:07 PM
    baldegale
    Re: Heat panels
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SiXandSeven8ths View Post
    +1 for Pro Products
    Purchased 2 panels on 2 separate occasions. Pleasant ranting but I don't mind the banter, eases my phone anxiety when the person I'm calling is genuine. I had them shipped to AP for installation and haven't had any issues. Will do business with again.

    can you tell me/pm me how much they cost by any chance to give a rough idea? no one seems to want to tell me lol


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  • 11-01-2017, 04:13 PM
    jmcrook
    Re: Heat panels
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by baldegale View Post
    can you tell me/pm me how much they cost by any chance to give a rough idea? no one seems to want to tell me lol


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    They make over 200 different size panels. Each one has its own price. Could be anywhere from $70-$?... my biggest one (125 watts I think?) was like $140 with shipping. Guaranteed for 10 years. $14/yr or a tad over a dollar a month for its guaranteed working life


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  • 11-01-2017, 04:21 PM
    baldegale
    Re: Heat panels
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jmcrook View Post
    They make over 200 different size panels. Each one has its own price. Could be anywhere from $70-$?... my biggest one (125 watts I think?) was like $140 with shipping. Guaranteed for 10 years. $14/yr or a tad over a dollar a month for its guaranteed working life


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    thank you! this is the info ive been trying to get lol, i wasnt going to email/call him yet cause its not quite a serious inquiry yet and wont be for awhile and didnt want to waste his time


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  • 11-01-2017, 06:16 PM
    BPGator
    Re: Heat panels
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tttaylorrr View Post
    (this is the only reason i went with RBI LOL)

    I have 2 RHPs from him and I've never talked to him. Did it all through email.


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  • 11-01-2017, 07:04 PM
    Starscream
    Re: Heat panels
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bpgator View Post
    i have 2 rhps from him and i've never talked to him. Did it all through email.


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    A Game-Changing Revelation!!!!!!!!!!!!

    edit: i'm trying to do caps and it won't let me :c
  • 11-01-2017, 09:47 PM
    CALM Pythons
    Re: Heat panels
    Bobs Pro Panels for a T8 to a T12 size enclosure cost $90 to $135 w/shipping.
    Not to bust chops but I say go with the best if your spending your hard earned money... I personally know some Pro panels that are still running 10 years + without a Hiccup.
    Do RBI's? I don't know, but with the problems they had in the past between melting, off gasing and a few fires you couldn't give me one. Thats not to say those problems haven't been corrected (IDK).. But theres a reason Bob makes Huge Pro Panels for Zoo's ect...
    I love my Herpstat & Pro Panel combo. A piece of mind goes a long way.


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  • 11-01-2017, 10:23 PM
    SDA
    You mean the same person that posted here and a few other forums back in 2016 that badmouthed and claimed they had 2 back to back failures with RBI RHPs thus causing a panic about RBI products even though there has been no documented issues with their products?

    Both these products are well made and will operate for a long period of time if installed and regulated correctly. Both will fail horribly if installed against recommended guidelines and run without a basic understanding of what you are doing. Same thing with heat tape. If you install it where tubs rub against it it will fail. Not the tape's fault, your fault for not knowing what you are doing.

    I have no concerns what so ever with my RBI purchase and while it may fail like any other product, I have no fear of it doing so. RBI has be amazing to deal with and answered all my questions. I have no offgassing, no warping, no excessive heat, no shut off from failure, and have not had my house burn down because I know how to properly install and manage heat sources.

    It's perfectly fine to not want to use something but it's not fine to spread misinformation about a current product. Go with pro products if the sales spiel hooks you but don't just buy it because third hand information scares you into doing so.
  • 11-01-2017, 10:35 PM
    rianron
    Re: Heat panels
    Just a heads up, I am also a "phone-call-aphobe" and was able to get a price quote from Pro-products and all my questions answered through an email on the contact page of their website. Definitely worth a try if you absolutely hate phone calls. :)
  • 11-02-2017, 12:21 AM
    hollowlaughter
    Good to know he'll take email inquiries. Phone is a no-go for me and I'd like to see what the prices would be for a RHP for a tub setup.
  • 11-02-2017, 06:39 AM
    CALM Pythons
    Re: Heat panels
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SDA View Post
    You mean the same person that posted here and a few other forums back in 2016 that badmouthed and claimed they had 2 back to back failures with RBI RHPs thus causing a panic about RBI products even though there has been no documented issues with their products?

    Both these products are well made and will operate for a long period of time if installed and regulated correctly. Both will fail horribly if installed against recommended guidelines and run without a basic understanding of what you are doing. Same thing with heat tape. If you install it where tubs rub against it it will fail. Not the tape's fault, your fault for not knowing what you are doing.

    I have no concerns what so ever with my RBI purchase and while it may fail like any other product, I have no fear of it doing so. RBI has be amazing to deal with and answered all my questions. I have no offgassing, no warping, no excessive heat, no shut off from failure, and have not had my house burn down because I know how to properly install and manage heat sources.

    It's perfectly fine to not want to use something but it's not fine to spread misinformation about a current product. Go with pro products if the sales spiel hooks you but don't just buy it because third hand information scares you into doing so.

    I don't know anything about a person that posted here in 2016. The reason I said Im not sure if all RBI's problems have been corrected is because it was several years ago. It was known about throughout the entire reptile community not just because someone posted nonsense. If I remember correctly RBI installed some kind of fuse after people started to report incidents. Just because you're unaware of it doesn't mean I'm spreading misinformation, if anything that's what you're doing by telling me I'm basically wrong. Hahahahaha


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  • 11-02-2017, 06:42 AM
    baldegale
    Re: Heat panels
    basically what ive gathered: go with whatever your heart desires but pro products are the best of the best and phone anxiety seems to be a common thing


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  • 11-02-2017, 09:02 AM
    SDA
    All I am saying and I am not accusing you directly Mr Sully, is do research. Both products have had problems in the past, this is documented, albeit second hand information. If neither made improvements then it would be obvious both are not fit to use. That however is not the case, both have improved over the years and both now are solid products that are safe and well constructed products. Nobody in their right mind should ever buy a used heat panel or used heat tape, that is just asking for problems because you have no idea if the previous owner installed them incorrectly or damaged them. Go with whichever one you learn is the one you want, not simply because you have fear of something that does not exist.
  • 11-02-2017, 09:14 AM
    robert7107
    Re: Heat panels
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rianron View Post
    Just a heads up, I am also a "phone-call-aphobe" and was able to get a price quote from Pro-products and all my questions answered through an email on the contact page of their website. Definitely worth a try if you absolutely hate phone calls. :)

    I emailed him first but found actually talking to him was easier...
    He told me how to mount panel an where to put probe.. I had no clue....



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  • 11-02-2017, 12:31 PM
    Mr. Misha
    Re: Heat panels
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mr Sully View Post
    Bobs Pro Panels for a T8 to a T12 size enclosure cost $90 to $135 w/shipping.
    Not to bust chops but I say go with the best if your spending your hard earned money... I personally know some Pro panels that are still running 10 years + without a Hiccup.
    Do RBI's? I don't know, but with the problems they had in the past between melting, off gasing and a few fires you couldn't give me one. Thats not to say those problems haven't been corrected (IDK).. But theres a reason Bob makes Huge Pro Panels for Zoo's ect...
    I love my Herpstat & Pro Panel combo. A piece of mind goes a long way.


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    Didn't learn the first time, did you? Stop bashing a product you have NO experience with. You were doing the same thing in the other thread. You can be a pro product cheerleader with your pom poms but if you're going to spread misinformation, at least post your source.

    Still waiting for you to provide me with that UL certs you claim pro heat panels have.
  • 11-02-2017, 01:24 PM
    SDA
    http://database.ul.com/cgi-bin/XYV/t...AME/index.html

    http://www.buzzfile.com/business/Pro...s-845-628-8960 (for their address and business category to refine a search)

    There are no entries in UL's database for pro-products. If it is not there, it does not exist plain and simple. Both use UL listed heating elements but the products themselves are not and most likely will never be because these are small companies and can't afford the cost of certification.

    This is one example of doing research. It is also my point that UL certification isn't the issue here nor should it be a determining factor. Neither products are UL listed.
  • 11-02-2017, 01:26 PM
    Squirtle44
    Reptile Basics - The Guys Are Awesome
    I've had to order heat tape arrangements multiple times of various levels of complexity (single sheets, wired in parallel).

    Have always gone to Reptile Basics for them and they show up wired, ready to go, and working perfect.

    I highly recommend Reptile Basics.
  • 11-02-2017, 03:29 PM
    CALM Pythons
    Heat panels
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mr. Misha View Post
    Didn't learn the first time, did you? Stop bashing a product you have NO experience with. You were doing the same thing in the other thread. You can be a pro product cheerleader with your pom poms but if you're going to spread misinformation, at least post your source.

    Still waiting for you to provide me with that UL certs you claim pro heat panels have.

    Her MR MISHA... what do you mean I didn't learn the first time? Stop replying/challenging my comments about Pro Panels & RBI in threads just because you don't like what I'm saying. I don't reply to anything you say as I could care less what your preferences are. I stick to the topics of the OP and give them MY ADVICE not what MR MISHA thinks.


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  • 11-02-2017, 03:31 PM
    dylan815
    ive got nothing but good things to say about pro products and their panels.....
  • 11-02-2017, 04:00 PM
    Mr. Misha
    Re: Heat panels
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mr Sully View Post
    Her MR MISHA... what do you mean I didn't learn the first time? Stop replying/challenging my comments about Pro Panels & RBI in threads just because you don't like what I'm saying. I don't reply to anything you say as I could care less what your preferences are. I stick to the topics of the OP and give them MY ADVICE not what MR MISHA thinks.


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    Oh Sally... Do you realize this is a public forum? I'm going to call out your baseless attacks on RBI since you haven't provided any concrete proof.

    I think I already explained to you that you can keep being cheerleader all you want, just keep your opinion about RBI panels out of your posts since you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about.

    Cheers!
  • 11-02-2017, 04:02 PM
    baldegale
    Re: Heat panels
    relax guys, none of the slander is necessary. just let whoever be wrong and move on with it. with my experience there was more than enough people in this thread proving them wrong that i wouldn’t believe them otherwise.


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  • 11-02-2017, 04:19 PM
    Eric Alan
    Disagree all you want - it's actually good for the discussion - but save the personal attacks for the playground.
  • 11-02-2017, 04:22 PM
    baldegale
    Re: Heat panels
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Eric Alan View Post
    Disagree all you want - it's actually good for the discussion - but save the personal attacks for the playground.

    my point exactly


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  • 11-02-2017, 05:30 PM
    CALM Pythons
    Heat panels
    [emoji8]
  • 11-02-2017, 05:32 PM
    baldegale
    Re: Heat panels
    considering youre both tapatalk members id appreciate it if you took this elsewhere outside of my thread in PMs or something.


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  • 11-03-2017, 01:31 AM
    BR8080
    Re: Heat panels
    I've got 6 RHP's from Pro Products(PP) and they are controlled by Herpstats. I've spoken with Bob several times and he is very easy to do business with and it's a flawless transfer from him to Animal Plastics for the clean installation I like.

    I have no experience with RBI panels but only know what I've read...both good and bad to be honest....so I will not speak to their reliability or lack thereof.

    I will, however, say I've never had a problem with my panels or the customer service I receive from PP. I can also appreciate the fact that they are used in zoo's. If a zoo deems them reliable and accurate enough to provide for their animals, they're good for mine.
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