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Hr669?

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  • 04-14-2009, 05:34 PM
    cartman89
    Hr669?
    Is this some joke? I'm mean I don't hear about it on the news or anything? I mean if the government DOES pass this I think they would know how screwed up society would be. And if it DOES pass I still think there will be breeders and stuff... I don't know I just think everyone (even on fish forums) is making this thing a bigger deal then it really is:weirdface
  • 04-14-2009, 05:38 PM
    wolfy-hound
    Re: Hr669?
    Please don't dismiss this. If you haven't read the bill, you have no idea how badly it's written.
    www.hr669.com
    GO watch the video. It's real, and you should be doing your part to prevent this! According the the bill, there will be NO breeding, or selling, or trading! Don't assume that your favorite pet will be exempt after the fact.
  • 04-14-2009, 05:39 PM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: Hr669?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cartman89 View Post
    Is this some joke? I'm mean I don't hear about it on the news or anything? I mean if the government DOES pass this I think they would know how screwed up society would be. And if it DOES pass I still think there will be breeders and stuff... I don't know I just think everyone (even on fish forums) is making this thing a bigger deal then it really is:weirdface

    What would lead you to believe that its being blown out of proportion. The bill specifically says that if passed the possession, breeding of, sale of, trade of/for, or transportation across state lines is illegal.

    So..No...There would be no more breeders it would be a federal offense to do so. Its not being made a bigger deal that what it is. It just seems that way because we understand the gravity of the situation.
  • 04-14-2009, 05:43 PM
    cartman89
    Re: Hr669?
    I know it's no joke. But look at all the illegal music/movies/drugs people do without getting caught. Anyways if it does get pass...does the US know that another war will be brought up?
  • 04-14-2009, 05:48 PM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: Hr669?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cartman89 View Post
    I know it's no joke. But look at all the illegal music/movies/drugs people do without getting caught. Anyways if it does get pass...does the US know that another war will be brought up?

    The difference would be if they outlawed the production, sale, or ownership of movies or music that wasn't deemed to be polka or yani by the government..How would that effect the music and movie industry you'd still have the odd few that would go underground but the mainstream industry would die overnight. The econmey would take a major hit, people would be out of work.

    And besides 1:3 households in the US currently has at one time owned or owns an animal on that list of "To Be Banned"

    Those stats don't even work if you combined the pirated movies/music or illegal drug use.
  • 04-14-2009, 05:50 PM
    cartman89
    Re: Hr669?
    If this is pass....well there goes the economy.
  • 04-14-2009, 05:52 PM
    blackcrystal22
    Re: Hr669?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Freakie_frog View Post
    The difference would be if they outlawed the production, sale, or ownership of movies or music that wasn't deemed to be polka or yani by the government..How would that effect the music and movie industry you'd still have the odd few that would go underground but the mainstream industry would die overnight. The econmey would take a major hit, people would be out of work.

    And besides 1:3 households in the US currently has at one time owned or owns an animal on that list of "To Be Banned"

    Those stats don't even work if you combined the pirated movies/music or illegal drug use.

    Hey Ed, can I get a look at this 'to be banned' list?
    I haven't seen it yet, just heard it.
  • 04-14-2009, 05:53 PM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: Hr669?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cartman89 View Post
    If this is pass....well there goes the economy.

    If this passes there goes the world economy..How soon did the world economy start to nose dive because they relied so much on the spending power of the US buyer.

    Think of what would happen if you overnight removed 50 billion dollars from circulation in the world.
  • 04-14-2009, 05:58 PM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: Hr669?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by blackcrystal22 View Post
    Hey Ed, can I get a look at this 'to be banned' list?
    I haven't seen it yet, just heard it.

    This would be easier there are over 10,000 species listed so unless you own one of these

    Quote:

    (Felis catus), cattle or oxen (Bos taurus), chicken (Gallus gallus domesticus), dog (Canis lupus familiaris), donkey or ass (Equus asinus), domesticated members of the family Anatidae (geese), duck (domesticated Anas spp.), goat (Capra aegagrus hircus), goldfish (Carassius auratus auratus), horse (Equus caballus), llama (Lama glama), mule or hinny (Equus caballus x E. asinus), pig or hog (Sus scrofa domestica), domesticated varieties of rabbit (Oryctolagus cuniculus), or sheep (Ovis aries), or any other species or variety of species that is determined by the Secretary to be common and clearly domesticated.
    Then its on the chopping block
  • 04-14-2009, 06:06 PM
    PythonWallace
    Re: Hr669?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cartman89 View Post
    I know it's no joke. But look at all the illegal music/movies/drugs people do without getting caught. Anyways if it does get pass...does the US know that another war will be brought up?

    1. This is very serious and real.
    2. There are millions of Americans in jails and prisons for simple drug possession.
    3. There aren't people out there publicly advertising or selling drugs or bootlegged copyrighted material, because they would be raided within a week, just like a breeder would be if they continued to breed reptiles after a bill like HR669 passes.
    4. Our government loves wars like the ones you speak of, because, to paraphrase the drug czar under Clinton, these wars are forever fundable.
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