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Spider Vs Honey Bee

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  • 10-31-2018, 09:47 AM
    BPgirls
    Spider Vs Honey Bee
    How do you tell the difference between these two morphs. I have compared Pictures but they look almost identical. Only thing i can see is a orange tint on lower part of body or I am just totally blind and missing it all together. :rolleye2:
  • 10-31-2018, 12:45 PM
    Roux
    Re: Spider Vs Honey Bee
    Spider is a single gene, honey bee is 2 genes ie spoder and ghost.
    Ghost is a recessive trait, which is also commonly called hypo or hypo melanistic. Hypo melanistic means reduction in black pigment in the skin, so while the snake overall has a look of "ghostly" or in shed appearance, the biggest sign is to look at the black in the spider pattern. It wont be as dark and may have blushing or lightening in it. Fun fact a snakes shed will have no pattern in it because of its hypo genes.
    If this wordy description is not helpful I'll post some pics (which arent mine btw)
    With your new knowledge, which is which?


    Further, if you still think they don't look much different, something i have learned is ghost/hypo snakes do not show up well in pictures or online. Go to a show or reptile expo and see one in person, they (imo) are very easy to see and a beautiful morph and desirableto have.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...15e0d7ef2b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...75072ee909.jpg

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  • 10-31-2018, 02:51 PM
    BPgirls
    Re: Spider Vs Honey Bee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Roux View Post
    Spider is a single gene, honey bee is 2 genes ie spoder and ghost.
    Ghost is a recessive trait, which is also commonly called hypo or hypo melanistic. Hypo melanistic means reduction in black pigment in the skin, so while the snake overall has a look of "ghostly" or in shed appearance, the biggest sign is to look at the black in the spider pattern. It wont be as dark and may have blushing or lightening in it. Fun fact a snakes shed will have no pattern in it because of its hypo genes.
    If this wordy description is not helpful I'll post some pics (which arent mine btw)
    With your new knowledge, which is which?


    Further, if you still think they don't look much different, something i have learned is ghost/hypo snakes do not show up well in pictures or online. Go to a show or reptile expo and see one in person, they (imo) are very easy to see and a beautiful morph and desirableto have.https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...15e0d7ef2b.jpghttps://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...75072ee909.jpg

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    You answered my question and i get what you are saying right now.
  • 10-31-2018, 03:06 PM
    Roux
    Re: Spider Vs Honey Bee
    Glad i could help [emoji106]

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  • 10-31-2018, 04:32 PM
    Lord Sorril
    Re: Spider Vs Honey Bee
    And just for reference: 'Orange Ghost' can give a tint that your eyes will identify as a little orange if you stare hard enough.

    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...psg9qmvesx.jpghttps://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...pssaurl9fm.jpg
  • 11-01-2018, 07:41 PM
    Cam the Snake Man
    the ghost adds what i would call a "soft" look, so the colors will be muted like Roux said look almost like they are in shed, but in a morph with lower pattern like a spider, it will be harder to see. It will be even harder in pictures but these snakes side b side in person would be a very easy identification.
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