Exact effect of Congo?

My newest boy that I got is a pastel butter congo.

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Anyways, I really like the way be looks and it seems pretty unique, to me at least, in color and I was wondering if that was due to the Congo or if it was just the pastel and butter. If so how exactly does the Congo effect him? When I asked the breeder thatvi got him from he simply said it was an enhancing gene and all I've read says the same thing, that it "Cleans up" the morph but I was just wondering how so exactly. When I look at other Congos I find it hard to find any real similarities and if I were to breed him how would I tell what offspring were Congo and which were not?

Any info on it would be awesome and if anyone has experience with the morph inwpuld love to hear it!


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No idea but I'll give you a bump, mostly because I want to know.

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I've been looking into Pastel Butter and comparing them to my boy. It seems as though it makes them look more pale? He is more of a creamy color then the pastel butters I see which seem to be more yellow. He also has less of a blush then I've seen in pastel butters. Perhaps that is what people mean when they say its a clean up morph?


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Is bongo and congo the same thing? I'm so confused [emoji26] it looks similar but I'm just not sure


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Originally Posted by BluuWolf

Is bongo and congo the same thing? I'm so confused [emoji26] it looks similar but I'm just not sure

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No, Congo and Bongo are not the same thing. How much did your snake cost you? Was it in the $1500-$3000 range? If not, then it is not a Bongo as Bongo is a relatively new gene and still fetches higher dollar.

Congo is a gene that originated with Vin Russo. I suggest checking out his website for the story

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Originally Posted by asplundii

No, Congo and Bongo are not the same thing. How much did your snake cost you? Was it in the $1500-$3000 range? If not, then it is not a Bongo as Bongo is a relatively new gene and still fetches higher dollar.

Congo is a gene that originated with Vin Russo. I suggest checking out his website for the story

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Ahh alright thanks XD I hadn't looked into the price range just some pictures after a friend showed it to me thinking it was a congo. I've looked at his website and read up on it but it doesn't talk really on the exact affects, just about how its a clean up gene and it pairs good with pastels


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Honestly, it can take a few shed cycles to identify which babies have Congo and which do not. On its own, Congo has a slightly lighter green look to the body color and slightly more crisp black. In combinations, you have to look for subtle changes. Congo generally lightens up a combination and removes black speckling in the body color. I have only worked a little bit with Congo and found the comparison in the Fire gene one of the more observable. Please look at my thread on the Congo Fire. It has a lot of good comparison pictures.

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/show...119-Congo-Fire

When you hatch out babies, you will have to wait for them to shed and compare how they each look in order to have a good chance to see which, if any, babies got the Congo gene. I am waiting for my babies from a Pastel GHI to the female Congo Fire that I kept in the above thread. I intend to post pictures of them when I get some time (I will post pictures on our Facebook page, but it may take some time to write up another thread on the new babies).

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Originally Posted by Slowcountry Balls

Honestly, it can take a few shed cycles to identify which babies have Congo and which do not. On its own, Congo has a slightly lighter green look to the body color and slightly more crisp black. In combinations, you have to look for subtle changes. Congo generally lightens up a combination and removes black speckling in the body color. I have only worked a little bit with Congo and found the comparison in the Fire gene one of the more observable. Please look at my thread on the Congo Fire. It has a lot of good comparison pictures.

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/show...119-Congo-Fire

When you hatch out babies, you will have to wait for them to shed and compare how they each look in order to have a good chance to see which, if any, babies got the Congo gene. I am waiting for my babies from a Pastel GHI to the female Congo Fire that I kept in the above thread. I intend to post pictures of them when I get some time (I will post pictures on our Facebook page, but it may take some time to write up another thread on the new babies).

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Thank you so much! This was really helpful! I had thought his pattern looked a lot cleaner and he was a more lighter, cream color with less blushing then pastel butters I have seen but I could just never find enough info on the morph to say if that was the congo showing or not. On your fire congo her head was a lot lighter then the fire and my pastel butter congos head seems lighter then pastel butters, is that semi consistent to other congos you think? Anyways I will defenantly keep a look out for the pics of your babies!


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