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super butters?

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  • 03-15-2013, 08:06 PM
    DancingFlutterby
    super butters?
    My husband & I have a hobby breeding collection of ball pythons. We have a lovely butter female that should be ready for her first breeding season next year. We've been debating back & forth about who to pair her to & in the process of deciding a question has come up. My husband has always wanted to produce a blue eyed lucy, cool beans... I'm on that. Well a breeder at a show mentioned that butter to butter breedings can be lethal. Thats news to us.... buuutttt.... we would like the reassurance of other breeders who have worked with butters. Neither of us has Ever heard from Anyone else that the "super butter" has any problems, just this one guy. :confusd:
  • 03-15-2013, 08:11 PM
    Shewter325
    Re: super butters?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DancingFlutterby View Post
    My husband & I have a hobby breeding collection of ball pythons. We have a lovely butter female that should be ready for her first breeding season next year. We've been debating back & forth about who to pair her to & in the process of deciding a question has come up. My husband has always wanted to produce a blue eyed lucy, cool beans... I'm on that. Well a breeder at a show mentioned that butter to butter breedings can be lethal. Thats news to us.... buuutttt.... we would like the reassurance of other breeders who have worked with butters. Neither of us has Ever heard from Anyone else that the "super butter" has any problems, just this one guy. :confusd:

    I have never heard of Super Butters being lethal so I dont think the guy knew exactly what he was talking about :confusd:
  • 03-15-2013, 08:19 PM
    Mike41793
    super butters?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Shewter325 View Post
    I have never heard of Super Butters being lethal so I dont think the guy knew exactly what he was talking about :confusd:

    x2.
  • 03-15-2013, 08:19 PM
    satomi325
    Re: super butters?
    They are not lethal, but they do have high chances of producing bug eyed BELs.

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  • 03-15-2013, 08:20 PM
    Mike41793
    super butters?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by satomi325 View Post
    They are not lethal, but they do have high chances of producing bug eyed BELs.

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    How high of chances? I mean its a possibility but I don't think its as big of a deal as kinking in super cinny's/black pastels or caramels.
  • 03-15-2013, 08:30 PM
    Jonas@Balls2TheWall
    You could always do Mojo to butter. Skip the bug eyes and sill get a bel.
  • 03-15-2013, 09:28 PM
    DancingFlutterby
    we do have a male mojo so thats an option...
  • 03-15-2013, 09:38 PM
    OhhWatALoser
    No they are not lethal

    I don't see why people think bug eyes are such a big deal personally, but to each their own.
  • 03-15-2013, 09:43 PM
    MisterKyte
    I think the bug eyes are a big deal in the sense that you have a smaller market for them since there aren't a lot of folks looking to buy an animal with something wrong with it's eyes. Would make a good pet but not something I'd want as breeding stock, so yeah, there are those points.
    I don't think it's particular frequent though? I very rarely hear people talking about producing bug eyed Super Butters/Lessers and lord knows a lot of folks are breeding them. I wonder if there are any seasoned breeders who could give a rough estimate on the probability of creating bug eyed BELs.
  • 03-15-2013, 09:44 PM
    snakesRkewl
    Our super is blind, as is his sister, they have eye issues.
    Luckily it doesn't pass down to the offspring.
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