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  • 11-16-2012, 09:35 PM
    RoseyReps
    Proving a morph, kind of..?
    Ok, so theoretically ...how many times / clutches would it take before you could say that a snake did NOT carry a certain gene?

    Some of you know what I'm talking avout already I'm sure, but say I breed my enchi (that everyone believes is a pastel enchi) to a normal girl, got 0 pastels, and more that looked like him, and normals of course. Some could easily say that the ones looking like him were also pastel enchis. So how many pairings / clutches do you think would be sufficient to show he is not, and just bright? (Obviously, if he throws a pastel my brain debate is done)

    Thanks :)
  • 11-16-2012, 09:45 PM
    Jonas@Balls2TheWall
    I would be somewhat convinced after one pairing and almost completely convinced after 2. Its a 25% chance of producing a pastel so its not an extremely rare odd.
  • 11-16-2012, 10:39 PM
    Zombie
    I agree, 2 is pretty good. I'd prolly do 3 if I was really sure the morph is what I think it is. Did you get any enchis that seemed more like regular enchis? Or did all the enchis come out like him?
  • 11-16-2012, 10:43 PM
    RoseyReps
    Re: Proving a morph, kind of..?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Zombie View Post
    I agree, 2 is pretty good. I'd prolly do 3 if I was really sure the morph is what I think it is. Did you get any enchis that seemed more like regular enchis? Or did all the enchis come out like him?

    I'm speculating ;) He's not even HOME yet...Oye...

    But, he has kept me up many nights wondering!

    When the time comes, I just want to have enough girls to *hopefully* prove one way or the other. (Assuming all three go, lay good eggs etc)I think 3 is good too, was just wondering what others thought.

    Don't worry..when the time comes his pairing / pics will be EVERYWHERE! And I will update like a madwoman...because it will be my first go at breeding ;)
  • 11-16-2012, 10:57 PM
    snakesRkewl
    1 time if it throws a singe gene pastel ;)
  • 11-16-2012, 11:09 PM
    RoseyReps
    Re: Proving a morph, kind of..?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RoseyReps View Post
    So how many pairings / clutches do you think would be sufficient to show he is not, and just bright? (Obviously, if he throws a pastel my brain debate is done)

    Thanks :)

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by snakesRkewl View Post
    1 time if it throws a singe gene pastel ;)

    I already said that Jerry :P

    I would love to see a pastel pop out first go round, I just want to know what he is for sure if he doesn't throw one first clutch lol.

    I know, I know...pastel enchi :P ;)
  • 11-16-2012, 11:37 PM
    Ridinandreptiles
    Well when you pair it to that lesser pastel and you get super pastel lesser Enchis you'll know(;
  • 11-16-2012, 11:47 PM
    RoseyReps
    Re: Proving a morph, kind of..?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ridinandreptiles View Post
    Well when you pair it to that lesser pastel and you get super pastel lesser Enchis you'll know(;

    Unfortunately she wont be ready until the 13/14 season :(
    Can't wait for that pairing!
  • 11-17-2012, 04:46 PM
    paulh
    Re: Proving a morph, kind of..?
    Here is the formula you want.

    P^n > 0.99

    P = probability of a single egg not producing a pastel
    ^ = to the power
    n = number of eggs.

    The probability of producing a pastel is 25% = 0.25. So P = 0.75.

    By a little trial and error with my calculator, n = 17. So you hatch 17 eggs. Every baby is normal, enchi, bright enchi or something other than a pastel. Then you have a 99.2% probability that the bright enchi parent is not a pastel enchi. More eggs raises the probability, but 99% is a good cutoff point.

    If one or more pastels hatch, then you can stop before 17 eggs, of course.
  • 11-17-2012, 04:51 PM
    RoseyReps
    Re: Proving a morph, kind of..?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paulh View Post
    Here is the formula you want.

    P^n > 0.99

    P = probability of a single egg not producing a pastel
    ^ = to the power
    n = number of eggs.

    The probability of producing a pastel is 25% = 0.25. So P = 0.75.

    By a little trial and error with my calculator, n = 17. So you hatch 17 eggs. Every baby is normal, enchi, bright enchi or something other than a pastel. Then you have a 99.2% probability that the bright enchi parent is not a pastel enchi. More eggs raises the probability, but 99% is a good cutoff point.

    If one or more pastels hatch, then you can stop before 17 eggs, of course.

    Thank you! That was what I was looking for :)
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