What are these???

Please help with identifying these snakes:


http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/6008/moresnakes004.jpg
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/7815/moresnakes104.jpg
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/8...esnakes096.jpg

Thanks,
Papo

What were each bought as?

looks like 2 normals to me. the second lighter one sorta looks fireish but i doubt it...

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Originally Posted by Daybreaker

What were each bought as?

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Both sold as fires, but the lighter one looks Vanilla-ish. :confused:

Their patterns are pretty busy for fires, but they do have some of the fire markings.

Here are more pics of the male:

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/1621/moresnakes003.jpg
http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/3...esnakes002.jpg
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/8123/moresnakes001.jpg

Thanks,
Papo

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Originally Posted by Papo

Both sold as fires, but the lighter one looks Vanilla-ish. :confused:

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The second one looks like a fire to me but the only thing that looks fireish about the first is the head. The first one really looks like a normal to me...
Who did you buy them from?

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Originally Posted by Mike41793

The second one looks like a fire to me but the only thing that looks fireish about the first is the head. The first one really looks like a normal to me...
Who did you buy them from?

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Local snake breeder here in Miami.

I was going to say the second looks Fire/Vanilla ish as well, but the first seems very bright and golden (but with the right wonky head marking). Maybe someone can post pics of lower-grade Vanillas to compare to your male?

If they were both sold to you as fires I would say it is totally plausible that they are fires. Fires can have large variances just like any other gene.