Difference in siblings bellys...?

I hatched out some beautiful Black Pastel 50% het hypos in Aug. and just now noticed this boys belly and how different it is from his sisters.

Is that a tiny ringer?
Are those large enough to be het pied markers?

The Sire black pastel 100% het hypo is an 08 bought as a hatchling from outback reptiles and has the same type belly as the baby girl.

http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/a...-Optimized.jpg
http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/a...y/PICT8826.jpg
http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/a...y/PICT8825.jpg
And his sister...more like my other black pastels
http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/a...y/PICT8734.jpg
She's a little hottie though...
http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/a...s/PICT7098.jpg

Just curious, thanks for looking :snake:

Looks like a ringer (albeit almost minutely but still a ringer) and het pied markers too. You can always keep her and try to prove her out. That would be super cool to hit a Panda Pied.

I wish it was the girl who had those markers, but since they are sibs it won't hurt to pick up a double het hypo pied male, that is if I can find one :P

ahh I miss read the original post. lol keep him and breed him to a het pied female just for giggles.

Id put my money on more, male is het hypo and the sister is not.

i keep hearing people talking about het hypos showing visually through other morphs, it might not be recessive after all.

id try proving out whos het hypo and whos not.

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Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser

Id put my money on more, male is het hypo and the sister is not.

i keep hearing people talking about het hypos showing visually through other morphs, it might not be recessive after all.

id try proving out whos het hypo and whos not.

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True about the het hypos sometimes showing through. I've seen the phenomenon at VPI's place. However, it's nothing at all to do with belly patterns and markers that look like pied markers. It's more an overall color difference.

As for the snake in question...it's certainly not beyond the realm of possibility that there was a het pied in its breeding history, but because the chances were so remote, no one ever recorded or followed the possible het connection. But those marks are found on perfectly normal ball pythons, too.

Still...being a male...seems to me like it would be a simple thing to throw him on a pied or het pied and see if anything proves out. He can still be a part of whatever other breeding projects you want to use to prove out the hypo side.