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  • 02-28-2010, 09:18 PM
    ER12
    WI to Declassify Animals as Property
    Here is just an exert from this document. Those in Wisconsin need to take action on this!

    "LRB-0677/2 repeals 173.12 (1m) to (3) of the state statutes. In this section, our current law sets fair requirements for the handling of any animal that is considered to be evidence in an alleged animal crime directing that "the animal shall be retained in custody". If the charges are dismissed or the owner is found not guilty, the animal "shall be returned to the owner". There are directives for the disposal of animals that were involved in fighting and provisions for the placement of the animal(s)... "after the owner's conviction".
    horse

    The elimination of these provisions clears the way for humane societies and so-called animal protection organizations, such as HSUS, to legally sell, sterilize, or euthanize animals, as they see fit, that come into their possession prior to when the owner has their day in court. If the charges are determined to be baseless or the rightful owner is found innocent, the person will have no lawful right to reclaim their animal(s). However, this is in conflict with Wisconsin State Statute 968.20 because it specifically refers to the portions of 173.12 for handling animal cases that HSUS & DCHS are trying to eradicate with their bill. (18)

    Clearly, this unconstitutional effort to declassify animals as property, depriving the rightful owner of Equal Protection and Due Process is discriminatory and reprehensible.

    But I've only scratched the surface of this trojan horse.

    The "reasonable grounds" definition comes into play in Section 10. 173.21 (1)(a): "There are reasonable grounds to believe that the owner has mistreated the animal in violation of ch. 951 or has violated s. 951.08." So if the facts get in the way, opinion, theory, suspicion... or even less... is all that's needed to proceed!

    The bill adds a new condition to existing requirements for the release and return of the animal to it's owner; that it be implanted with a microchip for identification. In an informal survey of veterinary clinics around the state, I found that prices to microchip an animal vary widely ranging from $25 to as high as $112 (with an office call), per animal. This stipulation could impose a financial hardship, especially if the person has a number of animals they are forced to chip."

    www.spanieljournal.com/46lbaughan.html
  • 02-28-2010, 11:56 PM
    Randall L Turner Jr
    Re: WI to Declassify Animals as Property
    Wow, this is just terrible, as expected from this type of group. Hopefully this is stopped, otherwise Wisconsin residents could be in a world of hurt.
  • 03-06-2010, 01:34 PM
    ER12
    Updated Red Alert for Wisconsin
    Public Hearing Thursday, March 11, 10:15 AM AB-793, if passed will seriously
    impact 14th amendment rights. Similar to the Louisville law that was struck
    down recently, this legislation allows for seizure bonds for animals taken
    before a conviction. If an individual was not able to post a bond, the
    legislation would allow for the animals to be placed.

    http://dfow.net/2010AB793AndSB580-BondsRequired.pdf
  • 03-06-2010, 11:18 PM
    steveboos
    Re: Updated Red Alert for Wisconsin
    This is beyond crazy, i really hope this doesn't pass. Animals are animals and they have souls and feelings, don't treat them like a freaking bag of trash that you can throw away. I hate when legislators try to pass things that obviously wont work in the long run and do more harm than good.
  • 03-07-2010, 12:04 PM
    EsotericForest
    Re: Updated Red Alert for Wisconsin
    How rediculous can you get. They don't have any right to do this. I need to move out of this state haha
  • 03-08-2010, 12:16 PM
    Derrick13
    Re: WI to Declassify Animals as Property
    " oooo Canadaaa!" lol
  • 03-09-2010, 08:33 AM
    EsotericForest
    Re: WI to Declassify Animals as Property
    Our home and native land ;)

    I have a lot of Canadian in my ancestry...perhaps I should consider heading there instead. It just seems like slowly the government is making it impossible to own animals, especially exotics.
  • 03-09-2010, 10:29 AM
    snakemastercanada
    Re: WI to Declassify Animals as Property
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by EsotericForest View Post
    Our home and native land ;)

    I have a lot of Canadian in my ancestry...perhaps I should consider heading there instead. It just seems like slowly the government is making it impossible to own animals, especially exotics.

    Well here in Canada at least in BC we are NOT doing much better new laws are getting suggested and radical groups are trying hard to destroy the keeping of animals here too.
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