pewter albino pied

Planning to start this project next year..considering my options, should I create a pewter albinos then breed, back to a pied, or breed back to a dh pied albino, I realize that the dhets then need to be bred back to each other so on that assumption I guess the most straight forward way would be pewter albino x pied= pewter, black pastel, pastel dhet pied albinos..opinions appreciated, thanks

meant to add..if this is the case I can breed a pewter to a visual albino & an albino to a visual pied to get the ball rolling on the double hets

well have to first look at what you can acually get, You might be able to get a pewter het pied (i could see them being for sale next year) and you could most likly get a albino pied or atleast a albino het pied.

I could tell you your options if you tell me what snakes you will be starting with, there so many possibilites

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Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser

well have to first look at what you can acually get, You might be able to get a pewter het pied (i could see them being for sale next year) and you could most likly get a albino pied or atleast a albino het pied.

I could tell you your options if you tell me what snakes you will be starting with, there so many possibilites

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I have a trio of albinos plus hets, a pair of pieds & a black pastel pewter..vpi axanthics for a couple of pied & albino projects & a couple of pastel females mated to the pewter witch will lead on to super black pastel pied projects..plans are initially for pewter( or silverstreak) pieds, pewter albino, albino pieds & ultimately pewter albino pieds, axanthic pieds, snows

ok so your starting with all base morphs.

pewter x albino 25% pewter het albino
pewter x pied = 25% pewter het pied

pewter het albino x albino = 12.5% pewter albino
pewter het pied x pied = 12.5% pewter pied

pewter pied x pewter albino = pewter double hets (among other double het types)

double het x double het = pewter albino pied

using sterlings and silver bullets and such will increase your odds. thing you want to avoid is making possible hets

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Thing you want to avoid is making possible hets

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DH X DH = Lots of possible hets. You have your 1/16 of hitting the double recessive. The other 15/16 all have a question mark next to them.

Wow, that looks like one real ambitious project, good luck with it.

I sure hope that the odds gods are smiling on you

:O A Black Pastel Pastel Albino Pied.... oooh.... any ideas on what that would look like?

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Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser

well have to first look at what you can acually get, You might be able to get a pewter het pied (i could see them being for sale next year) and you could most likly get a albino pied or atleast a albino het pied.

I could tell you your options if you tell me what snakes you will be starting with, there so many possibilites

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I have a proven pewter het pied available now!:D I actually have 3.0 proven males. Take your pick! lol! I should have pewter pieds and possibly sterling pieds this season. Cross your fingers. Hopefully my pewter het pied girls will be up to size by next year.

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Originally Posted by Brandon Osborne

I have a proven pewter het pied available now!:D I actually have 3.0 proven males. Take your pick! lol! I should have pewter pieds and possibly sterling pieds this season. Cross your fingers. Hopefully my pewter het pied girls will be up to size by next year.

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fingers crossed on the pewter pieds..best of luck :)

Thanks Bruce! If I do end up with nice odds, I won't procrastinate like some of the big breeders do.....I will definitely post pics!

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Originally Posted by JayCee

DH X DH = Lots of possible hets. You have your 1/16 of hitting the double recessive. The other 15/16 all have a question mark next to them.

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yea but it can hit what he wants, to prevent making possible hets he would have to breed to a albino pied.

you jsut don't want to be breeding your pewter pos DH to a pewter pos DH and find out one gene is missing.