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Re: Help, egg still attached to female...
I have to agree with every one else that replied to this.
If it were my snake, I would have scheduled a vet visit immediately.
Best of luck with her. Let us know the out come.
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Re: Help, egg still attached to female...
I would take her to the vet immediately, but I would also contact a few breeders anyway: people with really large collections have sometimes seen more ball python-specific breeding problems than even an experienced herp vet. And while they are doubtless busy right now, I think they'll want to help. The Barkers at VPI in particular have a history of talking people through unusual and life-threatening breeding issues.
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Re: Help, egg still attached to female...
Yes that is a prolapse, I don't want to make things worse, but she does need to see a vet asap. If she survives, she will never breed again. If it were me I would drain that egg asap, the other egg in her will need to be removed by the vet.
Do not try to tear the egg off the sack.
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Re: Help, egg still attached to female...
Here is what you do.
1) The female has laid the egg but the egg was stuck to the lining of the ovaduct. So, in essesence the female has prolapsed an egg. What you are going to need is a small pair of cuticle cissors and you are going to cut the egg out of the ovaduct. You'll want to make the cut in the clear part of the ovaduct and cut around the viens. Be careful not to cut the egg as the egg is good and will hatch if incubated. Make a 1.5 inch cut in the ovaduct at the tip of the egg and push it through. This part is easy.
2) Once the egg is out you'll want to manually remove the rest of the eggs in the female. There are 2 ways you are going to do this;
a) One egg at a time you are going to push on the belly of the female and move the egg to the vent. Very slowly you are going to push it out of the vent if the egg is not stuck. That means the egg will freely move when you push it in the female and won't go back into place it just goes where you move it. Once you get all of the eggs out, again one at a time, manually put the ovaduct back inside of the female and keep it as clean as possible. For those slow people this means pushing it back inside the female with your finger.
b) If the egg is stuck and won't come out do the following. This is for eggs that are stuck/twisted in the ovaduct. You can tell they are stuck because when you apply pressure to the egg to move it down to the vent it will spring back into place when you remove the pressure. In this case you'll want to go to a farm supply store and get a 14 or 16 gage needle and a 20-60ml syringe. You are going to jab the female through the belly directly into the stuck egg and drain as much liquid as possible. You may have to empty the syringe a few times so keep the needle part in the female and disconnect the syringe, empty the fluid and then hook it back upto the syringe and keep draining the fluid. Once that is done the female will pass the empty egg shell in a few days. I'm not sure why but they are always able to untwist a stuck egg that has been drained. If you don't remove the egg(s) the female will die. If more than one egg is stuck do all of the stuck eggs this way.
3) If the ovaduct is clean and undamaged you can place it back in the female. If it is all mangled or you accidently pushed out an egg that was twisted in the ovuduct by accident (it'll look like a sausage link) then just cut it clean off at the vent.
4) Place the female on antibiotics to ward off any infections. I'd recommend Fortaz. Most females will be fine afterwards but it doesn't hurt to be on antibiotics.
The female will be able to reproduce. I've had many females where I've had to remove eggs, drain eggs, and also cut out large portions of their ovaduct because of sausage linked eggs in the ovaduct. All go on to produce eggs year after year like nothing happened.
If you take the female to the vet she'll most like not know what to do and end up cutting open the female to remove any stuck eggs. This will most likely kill the female and render to infertile.
Good luck with your female.
Corey
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Re: Help, egg still attached to female...
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Re: Help, egg still attached to female...
I don't know if I would attempt that one! I would be too scared! I would have to go to the vet!
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Re: Help, egg still attached to female...
 Originally Posted by corey woods
here is what you do.
1) the female has laid the egg but the egg was stuck to the lining of the ovaduct. So, in essesence the female has prolapsed an egg. What you are going to need is a small pair of cuticle cissors and you are going to cut the egg out of the ovaduct. You'll want to make the cut in the clear part of the ovaduct and cut around the viens. Be careful not to cut the egg as the egg is good and will hatch if incubated. Make a 1.5 inch cut in the ovaduct at the tip of the egg and push it through. This part is easy.
2) once the egg is out you'll want to manually remove the rest of the eggs in the female. There are 2 ways you are going to do this;
a) one egg at a time you are going to push on the belly of the female and move the egg to the vent. Very slowly you are going to push it out of the vent if the egg is not stuck. That means the egg will freely move when you push it in the female and won't go back into place it just goes where you move it. Once you get all of the eggs out, again one at a time, manually put the ovaduct back inside of the female and keep it as clean as possible. For those slow people this means pushing it back inside the female with your finger.
B) if the egg is stuck and won't come out do the following. This is for eggs that are stuck/twisted in the ovaduct. You can tell they are stuck because when you apply pressure to the egg to move it down to the vent it will spring back into place when you remove the pressure. In this case you'll want to go to a farm supply store and get a 14 or 16 gage needle and a 20-60ml syringe. You are going to jab the female through the belly directly into the stuck egg and drain as much liquid as possible. You may have to empty the syringe a few times so keep the needle part in the female and disconnect the syringe, empty the fluid and then hook it back upto the syringe and keep draining the fluid. Once that is done the female will pass the empty egg shell in a few days. I'm not sure why but they are always able to untwist a stuck egg that has been drained. If you don't remove the egg(s) the female will die. If more than one egg is stuck do all of the stuck eggs this way.
3) if the ovaduct is clean and undamaged you can place it back in the female. If it is all mangled or you accidently pushed out an egg that was twisted in the ovuduct by accident (it'll look like a sausage link) then just cut it clean off at the vent.
4) place the female on antibiotics to ward off any infections. I'd recommend fortaz. Most females will be fine afterwards but it doesn't hurt to be on antibiotics.
The female will be able to reproduce. I've had many females where i've had to remove eggs, drain eggs, and also cut out large portions of their ovaduct because of sausage linked eggs in the ovaduct. All go on to produce eggs year after year like nothing happened.
If you take the female to the vet she'll most like not know what to do and end up cutting open the female to remove any stuck eggs. This will most likely kill the female and render to infertile.
Good luck with your female.
Corey
wow, u have alot of info. I really hope this helps
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Re: Help, egg still attached to female...
 Originally Posted by Corey Woods
Here is what you do.
1) The female has laid the egg but the egg was stuck to the lining of the ovaduct. So, in essesence the female has prolapsed an egg. What you are going to need is a small pair of cuticle cissors and you are going to cut the egg out of the ovaduct. You'll want to make the cut in the clear part of the ovaduct and cut around the viens. Be careful not to cut the egg as the egg is good and will hatch if incubated. Make a 1.5 inch cut in the ovaduct at the tip of the egg and push it through. This part is easy.
2) Once the egg is out you'll want to manually remove the rest of the eggs in the female. There are 2 ways you are going to do this;
a) One egg at a time you are going to push on the belly of the female and move the egg to the vent. Very slowly you are going to push it out of the vent if the egg is not stuck. That means the egg will freely move when you push it in the female and won't go back into place it just goes where you move it. Once you get all of the eggs out, again one at a time, manually put the ovaduct back inside of the female and keep it as clean as possible. For those slow people this means pushing it back inside the female with your finger.
b) If the egg is stuck and won't come out do the following. This is for eggs that are stuck/twisted in the ovaduct. You can tell they are stuck because when you apply pressure to the egg to move it down to the vent it will spring back into place when you remove the pressure. In this case you'll want to go to a farm supply store and get a 14 or 16 gage needle and a 20-60ml syringe. You are going to jab the female through the belly directly into the stuck egg and drain as much liquid as possible. You may have to empty the syringe a few times so keep the needle part in the female and disconnect the syringe, empty the fluid and then hook it back upto the syringe and keep draining the fluid. Once that is done the female will pass the empty egg shell in a few days. I'm not sure why but they are always able to untwist a stuck egg that has been drained. If you don't remove the egg(s) the female will die. If more than one egg is stuck do all of the stuck eggs this way.
3) If the ovaduct is clean and undamaged you can place it back in the female. If it is all mangled or you accidently pushed out an egg that was twisted in the ovuduct by accident (it'll look like a sausage link) then just cut it clean off at the vent.
4) Place the female on antibiotics to ward off any infections. I'd recommend Fortaz. Most females will be fine afterwards but it doesn't hurt to be on antibiotics.
The female will be able to reproduce. I've had many females where I've had to remove eggs, drain eggs, and also cut out large portions of their ovaduct because of sausage linked eggs in the ovaduct. All go on to produce eggs year after year like nothing happened.
If you take the female to the vet she'll most like not know what to do and end up cutting open the female to remove any stuck eggs. This will most likely kill the female and render to infertile.
Good luck with your female.
Corey
Amazing information but ewwwwwwww!!!
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Re: Help, egg still attached to female...
 Originally Posted by Corey Woods
Here is what you do.
1) The female has laid the egg but the egg was stuck to the lining of the ovaduct. So, in essesence the female has prolapsed an egg. What you are going to need is a small pair of cuticle cissors and you are going to cut the egg out of the ovaduct. You'll want to make the cut in the clear part of the ovaduct and cut around the viens. Be careful not to cut the egg as the egg is good and will hatch if incubated. Make a 1.5 inch cut in the ovaduct at the tip of the egg and push it through. This part is easy.
2) Once the egg is out you'll want to manually remove the rest of the eggs in the female. There are 2 ways you are going to do this;
a) One egg at a time you are going to push on the belly of the female and move the egg to the vent. Very slowly you are going to push it out of the vent if the egg is not stuck. That means the egg will freely move when you push it in the female and won't go back into place it just goes where you move it. Once you get all of the eggs out, again one at a time, manually put the ovaduct back inside of the female and keep it as clean as possible. For those slow people this means pushing it back inside the female with your finger.
b) If the egg is stuck and won't come out do the following. This is for eggs that are stuck/twisted in the ovaduct. You can tell they are stuck because when you apply pressure to the egg to move it down to the vent it will spring back into place when you remove the pressure. In this case you'll want to go to a farm supply store and get a 14 or 16 gage needle and a 20-60ml syringe. You are going to jab the female through the belly directly into the stuck egg and drain as much liquid as possible. You may have to empty the syringe a few times so keep the needle part in the female and disconnect the syringe, empty the fluid and then hook it back upto the syringe and keep draining the fluid. Once that is done the female will pass the empty egg shell in a few days. I'm not sure why but they are always able to untwist a stuck egg that has been drained. If you don't remove the egg(s) the female will die. If more than one egg is stuck do all of the stuck eggs this way.
3) If the ovaduct is clean and undamaged you can place it back in the female. If it is all mangled or you accidently pushed out an egg that was twisted in the ovuduct by accident (it'll look like a sausage link) then just cut it clean off at the vent.
4) Place the female on antibiotics to ward off any infections. I'd recommend Fortaz. Most females will be fine afterwards but it doesn't hurt to be on antibiotics.
The female will be able to reproduce. I've had many females where I've had to remove eggs, drain eggs, and also cut out large portions of their ovaduct because of sausage linked eggs in the ovaduct. All go on to produce eggs year after year like nothing happened.
If you take the female to the vet she'll most like not know what to do and end up cutting open the female to remove any stuck eggs. This will most likely kill the female and render to infertile.
Good luck with your female.
Corey
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Re: Help, egg still attached to female...
 Originally Posted by Corey Woods
Here is what you do.
1) The female has laid the egg but the egg was stuck to the lining of the ovaduct. So, in essesence the female has prolapsed an egg. What you are going to need is a small pair of cuticle cissors and you are going to cut the egg out of the ovaduct. You'll want to make the cut in the clear part of the ovaduct and cut around the viens. Be careful not to cut the egg as the egg is good and will hatch if incubated. Make a 1.5 inch cut in the ovaduct at the tip of the egg and push it through. This part is easy.
2) Once the egg is out you'll want to manually remove the rest of the eggs in the female. There are 2 ways you are going to do this;
a) One egg at a time you are going to push on the belly of the female and move the egg to the vent. Very slowly you are going to push it out of the vent if the egg is not stuck. That means the egg will freely move when you push it in the female and won't go back into place it just goes where you move it. Once you get all of the eggs out, again one at a time, manually put the ovaduct back inside of the female and keep it as clean as possible. For those slow people this means pushing it back inside the female with your finger.
b) If the egg is stuck and won't come out do the following. This is for eggs that are stuck/twisted in the ovaduct. You can tell they are stuck because when you apply pressure to the egg to move it down to the vent it will spring back into place when you remove the pressure. In this case you'll want to go to a farm supply store and get a 14 or 16 gage needle and a 20-60ml syringe. You are going to jab the female through the belly directly into the stuck egg and drain as much liquid as possible. You may have to empty the syringe a few times so keep the needle part in the female and disconnect the syringe, empty the fluid and then hook it back upto the syringe and keep draining the fluid. Once that is done the female will pass the empty egg shell in a few days. I'm not sure why but they are always able to untwist a stuck egg that has been drained. If you don't remove the egg(s) the female will die. If more than one egg is stuck do all of the stuck eggs this way.
3) If the ovaduct is clean and undamaged you can place it back in the female. If it is all mangled or you accidently pushed out an egg that was twisted in the ovuduct by accident (it'll look like a sausage link) then just cut it clean off at the vent.
4) Place the female on antibiotics to ward off any infections. I'd recommend Fortaz. Most females will be fine afterwards but it doesn't hurt to be on antibiotics.
The female will be able to reproduce. I've had many females where I've had to remove eggs, drain eggs, and also cut out large portions of their ovaduct because of sausage linked eggs in the ovaduct. All go on to produce eggs year after year like nothing happened.
If you take the female to the vet she'll most like not know what to do and end up cutting open the female to remove any stuck eggs. This will most likely kill the female and render to infertile.
Good luck with your female.
Corey
Great info! That should definitely be a sticky.
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