Do not purchase from this person!

[obsesssedsnakemom]

https://youtu.be/WtqBYhepHu0


BUYERS BEWARE!!!! I HAVE ALL PROOF IN MESSAGES IF ANYONE WANTS/NEEDS TO SEE THEM!!

I bought this gorgeous leopard. This guy sent me this snake with SCALE ROT, A RESPIRATORY INFECTION AND 500g lighter than he advertised! So in less than an hour of getting her home and looking her over, we start seeing the bubbles. We panicked! We moved her out of our quarantine room and completely away from any of our other snakes. I emailed him through MM and agreed to take her back and issue a full refund. He asked me to set her up to help the RI and hold off on shipping her back until Tuesday (Aug 31st) when he could receive her. I risked my own collection by keeping her longer than necessary. He’s been soaking her and using vics to keep her symptoms at bay…

He received her today and is ignoring my calls/emails/texts and then I see this posted on her listing…still no refund

His name is Stanley Ordonez and his MM store is SOS Amador

[Bogertophis]

... He’s been soaking her and using vics to keep her symptoms at bay…

FYI, by "vics" I assume you meant "Vick's Vapo-Rub", which should NEVER be used for snakes- it's toxic to them.

[obsesssedsnakemom]

FYI, by "vics" I assume you meant "Vick's Vapo-Rub", which should NEVER be used for snakes- it's toxic to them.

Yes that’s exactly what I mean. He had asked me to put some in her tub with her while I had her and I told him I did but there was no way I was putting that in there with her.

[KMG]

The picture of what he put on the listing isn't showing. What was it?

[KMG]

He said ouch when she bit him. That tells me all I needed to know about him but then he says she's going into shed. Ummm.... No! You missed the shed and that's stuck. I wouldn't buy a anything from that guy.

[obsesssedsnakemom]

He said ouch when she bit him. That tells me all I needed to know about him but then he says she's going into shed. Ummm.... No! You missed the shed and that's stuck. I wouldn't buy a anything from that guy.

You should see the excuse he tried on another person who gave him a bad review on MM. Now I know that BP’s can be picky but he tried saying that it’s totally normal for them to go off feed for months at at a time! I hope he doesn’t get the chance to screw over anyone else!

[Armiyana]

I would never trust a breeder who has an animal returned for scale rot and a URI going back and immediately listing her for sale again. Wow. Pretty much just opened the box from you, brought her outside, filmed and relisted her. No monitoring or precaution whatsoever. When I worked at a big box pet store... even if we KNEW it was buyer's remorse and not an actually sick animal? It was still put through a required quarantine when it was returned. The fact that you had legit health concerns about this animal....This is just terrible husbandry and business on this guy's part.

Per the MM ad: "Laid 6-2-21, 4 fertile eggs 5 slugs. 3,100 g is current weight, back of feed. Video taken Sept. 1, 2021. Big and healthy, has placed her pre lay weight back on. Great girth for laying. No issues. Video on YouTube- SOS Amador Leopard Female"
Was she advertised originally at the 3,100? Or is that updated too?
She's pissed and spicy in that video. She does have a good tongue flick, but interesting that he's bringing that up because that's to deflect the idea of her having an RI. "Going into shed" and then picking at the skin and saying she's starting to shed there had me rolling my eyes.

[Armiyana]

Adding on here.... his store policy has this:
" Paypal fees will be added to the total."
That is also a huge red flag because that is against paypal policy as well. You're supposed to be charging accordingly and not adding paypal fee payments like an additional tax. =/
You are required to handle your own fees. not the buyer.

Totally adding him to my block list

[obsesssedsnakemom]

I would never trust a breeder who has an animal returned for scale rot and a URI going back and immediately listing her for sale again. Wow. Pretty much just opened the box from you, brought her outside, filmed and relisted her. No monitoring or precaution whatsoever. When I worked at a big box pet store... even if we KNEW it was buyer's remorse and not an actually sick animal? It was still put through a required quarantine when it was returned. The fact that you had legit health concerns about this animal....This is just terrible husbandry and business on this guy's part.

Per the MM ad: "Laid 6-2-21, 4 fertile eggs 5 slugs. 3,100 g is current weight, back of feed. Video taken Sept. 1, 2021. Big and healthy, has placed her pre lay weight back on. Great girth for laying. No issues. Video on YouTube- SOS Amador Leopard Female"
Was she advertised originally at the 3,100? Or is that updated too?
She's pissed and spicy in that video. She does have a good tongue flick, but interesting that he's bringing that up because that's to deflect the idea of her having an RI. "Going into shed" and then picking at the skin and saying she's starting to shed there had me rolling my eyes.

It’s not updated at all. She weighed less than 2,600g when she got to me. I really hope PayPal can get my refund. I have proof of everything in messages and pics of the scale rot.

[Armiyana]

Heck if you do have proof that he added the paypal fees on top of her purchase price, bring that up too. It at least will be a ding on his paypal record.
Also....as a side note, be wary of anyone requesting that you pay as Friends and Family because they are trying to avoid the business fess and that can be a ding on you as well. And you don't get buyer protections.

I hope they do decide in your favor on that especially if he said he would refund in private message/email. Paypal can be very frustrating to deal with in matters like this. If you have proof that this is the same email on his paypal account saying he'll refund you, that should help it go smoother.