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rotate the males or the females?
I currently have a setup where I have 2 male mice and rotate them every other other week to a different female bin. is there a better system if I am trying to get 50 + feeders a week? thank you.
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Because I am not a fan of back to back breeding which I have found affected the size of the litters and growth rate of the babies, I rotate my animals.
All males rotate between 3 tubs (containing 3 females each) and they spend 2 weeks in each tubs.
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Re: rotate the males or the females?
![Quote](images/themes/default/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Deborah
Because I am not a fan of back to back breeding which I have found affected the size of the litters and growth rate of the babies, I rotate my animals.
All males rotate between 3 tubs (containing 3 females each) and they spend 2 weeks in each tubs.
is this correct?
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unfortunately your system seems geared towards producing pinkies. it has the male return to the cage before the pups are fully weaned, I need adult mice.
would you use this same system for rats? I have those too and do not need them full grown.
thanks for any input.
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Re: rotate the males or the females?
![Quote](images/themes/default/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Freakzter
is this correct?
unfortunately your system seems geared towards producing pinkies. it has the male return to the cage before the pups are fully weaned, I need adult mice.
would you use this same system for rats? I have those too and do not need them full grown.
thanks for any input.
Usually females become pregnant a lot fast in the first 5 days usually so you can produce hoppers which is what I mainly need and breed for, you basically need an extra week or so, so by the time the male returns the babies are 3 weeks old and can be weaned and placed in grow-out tubs.
You can do 3 weeks at the time per tubs or you can rotate between 4 tubs doing 2 weeks at the time.
For rats my system is VERY different, I rotate females, I have tubs setup with males and each week I had a new female in the tub, once a female is visibly pregnant she goes in a individual birthing tub until her babies are 5 to 7 days old at which time she goes in a communal tub (3 females / tub)
I produce a few thousand of feeder each year but the main breeding remains rat, mice need is more of a seasonal thing to start hatchling around baby season.
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Re: rotate the males or the females?
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if I understood you right, this would be my schedule if I wanted fully weaned mice?
I'm not sure why but I imagined I needed way more cages than 3 or 4. will this setup produce around 50 mice per week?
as for setting up a rat rotation, I'm not grasping your concept. I guess I'm a visual person and struggle with descriptions. how many male tubs should I start out with? I would like to produce about 25 rats per month. do you add a random female every week, or do you somehow keep track of who needs to be bred next? do you remove her after a week, or when she becomes visibly pregnant? is it always only 1 female with the male, or more? is she moved to the communal tub with her babies? sorry for all the questions. I appreciate any help in trying to understand your system.
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this is my setup
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my current setup is complete, i feel. the first 8 cages, A-H are my mice breeder bins, currently with 2 females each. 2 males get rotated alternatively every week. 9th cage has my replacement male. the final two bins are for rats.
my plan is to eventually have at least 4 breeders per cage, and produce 50+ mice per week (46 for my ferrets, 2 for my snakes, 2 for my arachs).
| 2.1 ferrets | 0.2 corn snakes | 0.0.1 chaco golden knee tarantula | 1.0 columbian redtail boa | 1.0 malaysian forest scorpion | 1.0 carpet python | 0.0.1 ground skink | 1.0 bull snake | 0.1 giant asian mantis | 1.0 bearded dragon | 0.0.1 mediterranean gecko | 2.20 mice | 1.4 rats | 0.0.8 death's head roaches | 0.0.100+ crickets |
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