spider ball wobble

[monty's dad]

I am going to be getting a spider ball on the 22nd from Neil Golli. I keep hearing that some spiders have a wobble. Im just wondering what that is refering to?

[echs332000]

Yea i would like to know also

[dizzy]

Type wobble into the search threads and you'll pull up alot of info.

I've never owned a spider and am actually trying to decide if I would ever be okay with owning a spider because of the wobble/spin...

But from what I read spiders tend to have a nuerological disorder that causes them to sway back and forth a little bit when they attempt to strike at their prey. Most spiders are apparently pretty uneffecte by it, meaning they still eat, shed, breed normally. Some severe cases are "spinners" that may do funny corkscrew things with their necks, or have trouble getting straightened out if you flip them upsidown.

Some people say not all spiders wobble, other people say that ALL spider have some wobble.

I took FOREVER to write this 'cus I'm at work and busy so like 10 people probably already replied lol

[FatBoy]

I have 5 spiders, one 08 wobbles a little before striking his rat. The others are perfectly fine. Spiders contribute to too many cool combos not to have one, or 2, or 10!!

[rabernet]

This is strictly my opinion - I do not believe that the spider wobble is neurological, but rather an equilibrium problem with the spiders. I have four spiders, every one of them has a wobble.

If you pulled open their tubs, took them out, handled them, let them crawl around, you'd say that they didn't have the spider spin.

But sit quietly in front of their tubs at night when they are exploring their tubs, and they move differently than the rest of my collection. When they get to the top of the tub, they will sometimes twist over backwards, wobble, etc.

Since all spiders are descendants of one animal, and the wobble is known to be associated with the gene, I do not believe that it can be bred out - and that it's tied to the spider alelle (sp?).

Again - this is only my opinion - but I'd be willing to bet if owners who swear that they have non-wobblers observed their animal's movements at night, they would see that they behave differently from their other ball pythons.

I don't personally believe it to be a bad thing. All four of mine are eating and nailing their food (it doesn't inhibit their ability to effectively dispatch their prey), growing and shedding. I think that it adds to their quirky personalities and I don't mind it.

I will say that to a first time spider owner, it can be a bit disconcerting, even if you know it's a trait of the spider - it was to me.

I think it's time to stop being fearful of the "dreaded wobble" and instead accept that it's just part of the spider charm.

[greghall]

Well said ,Spiders are all a little "special"!

[Bruce Whitehead]

I love spiders.

I have one and another on the way.

I was told my girl had a slight wobble and to be honest I cannot see it.

Took me a loooooong time to get them, but they really are amazing morphs.

I have seen vids of absolute train wrecks, so there is a chance. But if you are looking to get one, go with a breeder you like, research them, and don't be afraid to ask those questions.

The tricky thing is that a train wreck can right itself in time, so you never know with them.

Bruce

[alohareptiles]

Someday, I'll add a spider to the collection, but I must say the wobble is endearing...

[thatkindofgirl]

I have one and another on the way and a slight wobble would not deter me at all.. Mine does not have a wobble, but even if she did...

[Lateralus_Love]

This is strictly my opinion - I do not believe that the spider wobble is neurological, but rather an equilibrium problem with the spiders. I have four spiders, every one of them has a wobble.

If you pulled open their tubs, took them out, handled them, let them crawl around, you'd say that they didn't have the spider spin.

But sit quietly in front of their tubs at night when they are exploring their tubs, and they move differently than the rest of my collection. When they get to the top of the tub, they will sometimes twist over backwards, wobble, etc.

Since all spiders are descendants of one animal, and the wobble is known to be associated with the gene, I do not believe that it can be bred out - and that it's tied to the spider alelle (sp?).

Again - this is only my opinion - but I'd be willing to bet if owners who swear that they have non-wobblers observed their animal's movements at night, they would see that they behave differently from their other ball pythons.

I don't personally believe it to be a bad thing. All four of mine are eating and nailing their food (it doesn't inhibit their ability to effectively dispatch their prey), growing and shedding. I think that it adds to their quirky personalities and I don't mind it.

I will say that to a first time spider owner, it can be a bit disconcerting, even if you know it's a trait of the spider - it was to me.

I think it's time to stop being fearful of the "dreaded wobble" and instead accept that it's just part of the spider charm.

I completely agree with Robin, straight down to our opinions on what causes the wobble and the (imo) fact that they're here to stay.

I absolutely love my Spider. She's fast become my favorite snake, because she's a huge dork. She does move a bit different from the rest of my collection, but she doesn't have any problems whatsoever. When I'm handling her I have more fun than any others simply because she's my favorite

Before getting her I read both sides of the wobble debate and decided, why should I care if her head shakes a little bit while she's moving around? I already know she's beautiful, and that she's the key to other beautiful combos. It's just like saying a dog with three legs is going to be a problem, when they still have as much fun and energy and love to give, as dogs with all four.

My Spider only wobbles a little bit when she goes to pick up her head while she's moving around. Other than that, I haven't seen anything terribly disconcerting. I read once that a wobble's intensity can change in a single snake throughout their lives. As in, a snake that you initially get with no signs of a wobble, could shed and corkscrew like a psycho, then a while down the road be back to how they were when you get them. And vice versa, if you get a psycho spinner, they could turn around and you won't notice any kind of wobble. I've only had Naunet for a month, so I haven't seen any change.

Let me just say that, if you do find the movements upsetting, then a Spider may not be for you. To each his own. But read up on it more, meet up with people who have them, and see for yourself. Don't let people convince you that the Spider wobble is terrible. You may end up laughing at yourself for ever considering it badly