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That IS a big change, but since she has recently laid all those huge eggs, I personally suspect that her color change is due to some sort of nutritional deficiency-
it takes a lot out of a snake to reproduce. Have you tried giving her a good reptile vitamin/mineral supplement (maybe added to her f/t prey)-? I would...
Rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength.
Eric Hoffer (1902 - 1983)
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Re: Color Change BHP
Originally Posted by Bogertophis
That IS a big change, but since she has recently laid all those huge eggs, I personally suspect that her color change is due to some sort of nutritional deficiency-
it takes a lot out of a snake to reproduce. Have you tried giving her a good reptile vitamin/mineral supplement (maybe added to her f/t prey)-? I would...
That's one of the theories and I've heard of at least one person where the snake colored back up again after calcium supplements. The fact that this cropped up on my girl during egg production lends further weight to the deficiency/imbalance arguments. It could also be a coincidence and I'm hesitant to add supplements as I've always been very cautious about what I feed these critters, keeping the menu lean and diverse. I prefer to let my animals regain what they've lost through breeding at a more natural pace as opposed to pumping them back up quickly. Color changing also isn't limited to egg producing females, nonbreeding females and males alike can be affected. It seems to most often occur gradually over time with animals changing back, once started, being the less common scenario. The fellow who I bought this girl from has had multiple customers contact him about their animals changing color years later. Neither of the parents are color changers but they have been traced back to the "Swiss" line so it definitely feels like there's a genetic component involved. The fact that it can hit males too leads me away from the sudden deficiency line of thinking but doesn't altogether negate some sort of imbalance. As you probably know, a lot of captive BHP are overweight and since these color changes don't seem to occur until animals have some years of growth, it could very well be an imbalance issue. There's also the theory that it's an autoimmune related condition, something similar to vitiligo.
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Re: Color Change BHP
Congratulations John! Well done sir. BHPs are one of the most beautiful snakes around.
3.0 Carpet Pythons, 1.1 Bullsnakes
1.0 Olive Python 1.0 Scrub Python,
1.0 BI, 0.1 BCO
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Congrats John! I love hearing about more BHPs.
The one thing I found that you can count on about Balls is that they are consistent about their inconsistentcy.
1.2 Coastal Carpet Pythons
Mack The Knife, 2013
Lizzy, 2010
Etta, 2013
1.1 Jungle Carpet Pythons
Esmarelda , 2014
Sundance, 2012
2.0 Common BI Boas, Punch, 2005; Butch, age?
0.1 Normal Ball Python, Elvira, 2001
0.1 Olive (Aussie) Python, Olivia, 2017
Please excuse the spelling in my posts. Auto-Correct is my worst enema.
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Re: Color Change BHP
Congratulations there so cool, love the glossy heads
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They look amazing, you must be over the moon.
Rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength.
Eric Hoffer (1902 - 1983)
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Re: Color Change BHP
They look adorable.
Sorry you lost a couple though - is there any info on cutting BHP eggs and the results?
It's a species I know very little about but the little I have read makes them sound facinating.
Derek
7 adult Royals (2.5), 1.0 COS Pastel, 1.0 Enchi, 1.1 Lesser platty Royal python, 1.1 Black pastel Royal python, 0.1 Blue eyed leucistic ( Super lesser), 0.1 Piebald Royal python, 1.0 Sinaloan milk snake 1.0 crested gecko and 1 bad case of ETS. no wife, no surprise.
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Wow my dream snake, wonder if my husband would notice one that big
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