Quote Originally Posted by Bluebead View Post
I try to keep a certain look; a width to length proportion that looks healthy but doesnt make you think 'fatty'. You dont want to send a male into brumation without enough body fat to make it thru until he starts eating again, especially if he's breeding lots and burning it up making little swimmers and courting.
This is my approach as well. Typically that's around 900-1000g for a 2nd winter male. Atleast that's what size range I have the most success with and they seem to be the most vigorous.