New tank setup

[Kaorte]

Ball pythons love small and tight spaces. they are easily overwhelmed by large enclosures. If you provide a good number of hides and add lots of foliage, the security aspect shouldn't be a ploblem, but just think about the amount of stuff you will have to clean.

Yes, the size isn't much different, but mostly that cage has a lot of height, which will never be used by this ground dwelling snake. So its just wasted space that you still need to heat properly.


Kevin hornby: Do you have multiple snakes in that enclosure?

[zhang317]

A large tank does not automatically equal a stressed ball python.

In caparison to a smaller tank, a large tank is harder to maintain temperatures, humidity, and the sense of security.

Temperature, humidity, and the sense of security can all be provided properly with the proper equipment and care. It is essentially a the same as a smaller tank, but on a larger scale, which is more difficult and more expensive; therefore less popular.

In the wild, ball pythons live in small abandoned rodent burrows, but they have the choice to move from one hiding place to another as they like. This a reason why some owners wish to provide their snake with a large enclosure.

Just because a ball python does really well is a small enclosures, that does not mean, it has to be in a small one. There are plenty of experienced owners on the site who can tell you that they have large enclosures with no problems. At the end of the day, every ball python and every owner is different, there are general rules for the keeping of ball pythons, but they are not set in concrete.

It is really discouraging when new owners sign on to this site, and people tell them to get ride of some of the things they own or just bought. Instead you can make more reasonable and kind suggestions, in this case: A large enclosure will be harder to maintain, but that does not mean it cannot be done.

[Kevin_Hornby]

We have 4 snakes in our tank currently. 2 female het albinos, a male het pied and a baby female cinnamon.

[Kaorte]

We have 4 snakes in our tank currently. 2 female het albinos, a male het pied and a baby female cinnamon.

I hope you know that is NOT OKAY.

[Kevin_Hornby]

And why is that "Not OK"?

[Kaorte]

And why is that "Not OK"?

Well if you don't know, then obviously you don't know very much about ball pythons.

You should NEVER EVER house ball pythons together unless they are breeding. Which surely yours are not. Ball pythons are solitary animals and become extremely stressed when housed with other ball pythons. Also, if one gets sick, all 4 get sick. If one has mites, they all have mites. Then you have to pay for 4 sick snakes as opposed to just one.

Taken from the ball python FAQ:
It is possible to do so, yes. But it is NOT a recommended practice. Snakes are not social creatures and it is stressful for them to live together. What may appear to be 'cuddling' is in fact the snakes competing for the best parts of the cage. Aside from the stress factor, snakes living in the same enclosure are free to share parasites and diseases with each other. This also makes it more difficult to figure out which one is sick if you notice abnormal stool, for instance.

What possessed you to put them all together?

[Kevin_Hornby]

OK seriously, ball pythons are perfectly fine to live together. I don't know where you've gotten your information, but please read up on the following sites.

http://www.vareptilerescue.org/ballpyth.html
http://www.kingsnake.com/ballpythonguide/

If you talk to any breeder they will tell you that ball pythons can live quite happily together. My snakes rarely miss a meal and usually eat twice a week. There is enough room inside of the tank for them to be quite happy wherever they wish to be.

[Kaorte]

OK seriously, ball pythons are perfectly fine to live together. I don't know where you've gotten your information, but please read up on the following sites.

http://www.vareptilerescue.org/ballpyth.html
http://www.kingsnake.com/ballpythonguide/

If you talk to any breeder they will tell you that ball pythons can live quite happily together. My snakes rarely miss a meal and usually eat twice a week. There is enough room inside of the tank for them to be quite happy wherever they wish to be.

wow. just wow.

[Kevin_Hornby]

I've got to ask. How did you become this guru of information on ball pythons owning 2?

[Kaorte]

I am no guru, but I bet if you ask anyone on here they will all give you the same answer. You CANNOT house ball pythons together.
http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...hlight=housing
http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...hlight=housing
http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...hlight=housing
http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...hlight=housing
http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...hlight=housing
http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...hlight=housing
http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...housing+snakes

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