Are ball pythons a domesticated species?

[Shadera]

Like I said, there's a huge difference between domesticated and imprinted. I've fostered orphaned raptors that were as tame as could be and imprinted on people, but I wouldn't have called them domesticated. I'm handfeeding some baby eclectus right now that are sweet as can be but still - imprinted and not domesticated.

If you've been around the bird forums, you've probably seen me. I've been staff on a couple. Here's an old thread here with a few of my birds.
http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ad.php?t=73051

I've added a few, and I had a pair of Grand Eclectus that recently went to new owners. I thought to update, but haven't gotten around to it. Nice to meet you as well.

[MarkS]

Ball pythons are no where close to being domesticated.

Prove it.

[Andras]

I just got my first ball python yesterday and will never consider it to be domesticated. It may show domestic qualities, but it will not be domesticated.

[Egapal]

I have to disagree with you here. Cats know exactly who their owner is, they are just too close minded to pay attention some times.

Like I said cats don't recognize a social hiararchy. Sure they can tell one human from another and act accordingly but they do not recognize you as there leader. Like a dog will if treated properly.

And they have a VERY Flexible diet. Seriously, cats will eat anything. At least mine will.

Some cats will eat anything but those same cats will throw up or get no nutritional value out of anything but animal proteins. Big difference between what an animal will put in its mouth and what is considered part of its "diet".

They do have a hierarchy as well. I mean, what is the definition of a pride?

A pride is a group of lions, not cats. Cats were domesticated from a solitary line of felines that lived in arid conditions.

[Egapal]

I have to agree, cats live in packs too. You might be thinking of a tom cat prowling around by himself, but you will usually find cats in groups.

Cats do not naturally live in packs. I cats have a large enough area they will spread out. Cats have been known to form groups but this behavior is considered to be similar to snake that are found in groups. They are together because the place they are is the best place to be not because they want to be together. Another proof of this is that cats that live in packs fight constantly and get pretty serious injuries from such fights both male and female. Pack animals fight for dominance and this rarely results in injury except when its done for breading rights.

My cat knows I'm the boss, don't mean he listens all the time.

The fact that your cat doesn't listen means he doesn't know you are the boss. He knows you are an animal that is larger than him so he sometimes listens but its based on your size and the fact that he does not know the difference not that he knows you are boss.

[littleindiangirl]

The fact that your cat doesn't listen means he doesn't know you are the boss. He knows you are an animal that is larger than him so he sometimes listens but its based on your size and the fact that he does not know the difference not that he knows you are boss.

Okay, for sake of getting off my sarcastic responses, we'll say your right.

[littleindiangirl]

Prove it.

You prove they are domestic. LOL

[JKExotics]

Like I said, there's a huge difference between domesticated and imprinted. I've fostered orphaned raptors that were as tame as could be and imprinted on people, but I wouldn't have called them domesticated. I'm handfeeding some baby eclectus right now that are sweet as can be but still - imprinted and not domesticated.

If you've been around the bird forums, you've probably seen me. I've been staff on a couple. Here's an old thread here with a few of my birds.
http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ad.php?t=73051

I've added a few, and I had a pair of Grand Eclectus that recently went to new owners. I thought to update, but haven't gotten around to it. Nice to meet you as well.

Ah very nice, I had a Panamanian Amazon for many years. I posted a pic of our baby here http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...185#post980185, I'll post more of the adults next week when we have our new camera.

[MarkS]

You prove they are domestic. LOL

No no no... Ladies first... I insist.

[Egapal]

Prove it.

I am guessing that MarkS lives in a suburban to urban area. Now I could be wrong but that's the only excuse I can think of for a person to assume that an animal was domesticated until proven otherwise. Most of the people on the planet assume an animal is wild until proven domestic, its a much safer approach to life.

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