Quote Originally Posted by cassandra View Post
Okay. Anyone here ever have rats on pine shavings and had a lung/liver/health problem?


<-- in the "rodents on pine shavings, haven't had a problem" camp.
And how many people take their dead animals out for necropsy to determine cause of death and the health of the animal at the time it passed? Oh, and how many people can claim their animals don't have myco? Very very very few can claim that outside of labs.

Myco infects all rats besides select few lab rats, and does give them lung problems. Myco is in many ways a degenerative infection, as the rats age, the myco will scar up the lung tissue more and more, leaving the rat more susceptible to secondary infections like pneumonia and RI's, which is a big killer in rats. Most rats don't show they are sick until it is too late when their sides are caving in as their stomachs fill with air because their lungs are full of fluid and mucous. They can't even cough properly at this point.

So yes, that's my point. It's just not a viable cost for feeder breeders to take their sick or dead rats in to a vet to determine illness or c.o.d., so it really is the absence of evidence through a lack of actually going out and getting that evidence. Maybe I'm a bit jaded on this, but I'm okay with that.