New Balls...and a blind test...

[blackcrystal22]

Both look like pastels to me.
If they both have clear bellies, then yes, they are both pastels. The second one doesn't have a lot of blushing, but definitely has a lot of the traits of a pastel.

[dreese88]

Both look like pastels to me.
If they both have clear bellies, then yes, they are both pastels. The second one doesn't have a lot of blushing, but definitely has a lot of the traits of a pastel.

I was thinking the same thing.

[MUSTANGGTANDGSXR]

look like pastels to me

[SnakeDoc]

OK, my turn....

The female is either a super pastel or a pastel het stripe or clown.
The male is a jungle pastel or pastel het for clown.

So I'm going to go with 1.1 pastels het for clown as my final answer.

[BPHERP]

I wish to everything holy in this world that they were het for clown, but, I don't think they are.

The male was sold to a new friend of mine as an enchi, which it 95% isn't, and the large female is a pastel.

BrandonsBalls

[Bill Buchman]

I wish to everything holy in this world that they were het for clown, but, I don't think they are.

The male was sold to a new friend of mine as an enchi, which it 95% isn't, and the large female is a pastel.

BrandonsBalls

The girl is a very nice Pastel. The male sure isn't an Enchi -- Pastel as well.

[Drew87]

Im saying pastel, But the first one is really nice possibly a super? anyways looks great

[Ponthieux]

OK, my turn....

The female is either a super pastel or a pastel het stripe or clown.
The male is a jungle pastel or pastel het for clown.

So I'm going to go with 1.1 pastels het for clown as my final answer.

Soo..... how is it that you are visually identifying hets? i'm not trying to be a jerk, i was under the assumption that a het for clown would look normal...

[LadyOhh]

They are pastels, and the theory behind the het Clown is that they are very bright animals, even as normals..

Now whether or not this is a 100% true distinguishable characteristic, I don't think so.

[MarkS]

They both look like older pastels to me, that female is particularly nice looking.