actually it was a great deal. Both girls where over 2000g when I got them in 2006. I have not been able to prove them out yet but next year I look to pair them with either a 100% het albino or most likely a spider, pastel or majave. Shoot I might just pair them with all 3 and see what I get. I was told AFTER I got them that they where poss het for albino, so it was a bonus. When I got them it seemed like big girls where hard to come by. Nowdays it is easier to get a large female.