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Re: Please help! I'm about to give up :(
Place your probes directly on glass then cover with your bark, you will want to invest in a temp gun so you can get accurate temps. your warm side should read around 94 and cool side 88. Don't stress out , I would dial those temps back for now
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Re: Please help! I'm about to give up :(
 Originally Posted by llovelace
Place your probes directly on glass then cover with your bark, you will want to invest in a temp gun so you can get accurate temps. your warm side should read around 94 and cool side 88. Don't stress out  , I would dial those temps back for now
thank you! the only problem when i lower the temps back on the UTH's is that when I put my hand in the hide, it's barely warm. it's barely warm even at the temps i have them at now
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Re: Please help! I'm about to give up :(
 Originally Posted by kasmir
thank you!  the only problem when i lower the temps back on the UTH's is that when I put my hand in the hide, it's barely warm. it's barely warm even at the temps i have them at now 
Remember that our body temp is much higher than the temp you want for a ball python, and so the hides will indeed feel tepid; or barely warm.
A glass tank can be a tricky thing to get right. Have you tried insulating the sides and back of the tank to help hold in the heat?
Also, a thermostat (as has been suggested) is a must to control the heat sources and keep your snake from getting burned. If you have 2 heat sources you'll need 2 thermostats or a Herpstat II.
Reptile Basics sells a great line of temp guns. These are a great husbandry tool; really a must-have in my book! 
Take care. Don't give up. Keep asking questions and being open to corrections and change
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Re: Please help! I'm about to give up :(
 Originally Posted by starmom
Remember that our body temp is much higher than the temp you want for a ball python, and so the hides will indeed feel tepid; or barely warm.
A glass tank can be a tricky thing to get right. Have you tried insulating the sides and back of the tank to help hold in the heat?
Also, a thermostat (as has been suggested) is a must to control the heat sources and keep your snake from getting burned. If you have 2 heat sources you'll need 2 thermostats or a Herpstat II.
Reptile Basics sells a great line of temp guns. These are a great husbandry tool; really a must-have in my book!
Take care. Don't give up. Keep asking questions and being open to corrections and change 
I guess Starmom beat me to it!!!
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Re: Please help! I'm about to give up :(
 Originally Posted by starmom
Remember that our body temp is much higher than the temp you want for a ball python, and so the hides will indeed feel tepid; or barely warm.
A glass tank can be a tricky thing to get right. Have you tried insulating the sides and back of the tank to help hold in the heat?
Also, a thermostat (as has been suggested) is a must to control the heat sources and keep your snake from getting burned. If you have 2 heat sources you'll need 2 thermostats or a Herpstat II.
Reptile Basics sells a great line of temp guns. These are a great husbandry tool; really a must-have in my book!
Take care. Don't give up. Keep asking questions and being open to corrections and change 
thank you thank you thank you! I contacted my local family owned pet store who doesn't carry thermostats but is looking into ordering them for me & they were very helpful (I also was able to pick their brain about my situation, i love supporting small businesses lol). I also found a temp gun at home depot for $30 so i will be investing in one very soon! thank you for your help
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Re: Please help! I'm about to give up :(
 Originally Posted by kasmir
thank you thank you thank you! I contacted my local family owned pet store who doesn't carry thermostats but is looking into ordering them for me & they were very helpful (I also was able to pick their brain about my situation, i love supporting small businesses lol). I also found a temp gun at home depot for $30 so i will be investing in one very soon! thank you for your help 
You can find them at Autozone, Orielly's, or NAPA. I got mine @ NAPA. I have seen some inconsistancy in the on eI got at NAPA and will be ordering one from Rich @ Reptile Basics.
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Re: Please help! I'm about to give up :(
Another possibility that can make a world of difference is if a warmer room exists in the house move him to it. Also keep the tank away from windows in your house. Sitting next to a window in this kind of weather in my house makes me cold. Limit drafts, make sure no heater vent blows on the aquarium and it is not next to a cold air intake. (as long as you have several cold air intakes in you house you can block one off if you have to put it by it.)
Start a note book that keeps every little detail you can think of in it, even incase you know the detail is wrong and fix it as soon as detected. Include an overhead room sketch in your note bood that shows windows, tank placement, approximate height off floor, doors designated as going into the rest of the house or outside, heat and AC vents and intakes. Different things work for different people, different people are comfortable with different things, and a house built in 1890 will probably require a different set up than a house built in 2008. The notes will help prevent you from second guessing yourself.
Heaven forbid it comes to it, but if something does happen to your ball you will at least be able to go back and see if some change made may be at fault. In the end you will be a better herp keeper. Once you start to get things hammered out your confidence will grow and you will start to intuitively know what has to be done. Until then your notebook will have everything written in it creating a Do and Do Not guide for yourself.
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