WC Gravids?

[Albey]

I wonder if the conflict in the native habitat of leopard geckos might have something to do with their not being imported at the moment.

What does the reason they are not imported have to do with anything? The fact that they are not imported yet there are more than enough to satisfy the demand says it all. With the tremendous amount of Ball Pythons already in this country there is no reason to continue to import more than a few hundred or so a year, if that. Oh by the way, every Leopard Gecko I have ever bought was purchased directly form the breeder that produced it.

IF you don't want imports being sent in that's fine, don't buy them. Make loud noises and snub those who do. Make blanket statements that you won't buy from people who deal in imports whether they be gravid or not.

I wont buy them, I do make loud noises and snub those that do, and I personally do not do business with anyone that deals in imports.

Of course, unless you're a hypocritical sack of crap, you KNOW that the snakes YOU have came from imports and/or gravid females. How come it's OK for YOU to have them but not the next wave of regius keepers? You've got yours so screw the newbs eh? Very cool of you.

Unless of course YOU are an absolute idiot that thinks every Ball python that has been sold in the last five years was imported YOU would know that a lot of incredible breeders have been producing Morphs and cool looking normals to sell. Every Ball Python in my collection was bought from one of those breeders and will continue to be. As far as the next wave of regius and Newbs go, they have multi trait morphs available to them that I could only dream about at prices that are incredibly less than I paid for my one trait Morphs. The main reason they are so much cheaper of course is mostly the fault of Flippers and the other Market crashers out there.

And flippers, yes we're terrible. I say we because I buy and flip maybe a dozen or so balls every year. Sometimes more, sometimes less. I suppose guys buying corns by the hundred lot and garters by the thousand and flipping them are better somehow but I can't figure out how.

I do a lot of west coast shows and have NEVER been to one that was totally CBB no matter what the advertisements say. LLL, reptile depot, and a couple of other guys are ALWAYS there and they are FLIPPERS, importers, and I, personally, do NO business with them because of the WAY they treat their animals not their origins. Of course customer service also plays a part in my not doing business with them, but that is another issue.

If my choice were to feed my family by selling a legally collected animal or having them starve, you can bet your bottom dollar I'd be catching snakes.

Some of you have presented well thought out points of view, somewhat narrow perhaps, but the thought is evident.

Some of you are fence posts looking for cement.

Before you condemn someone for doing what you say you would not, be sure the origins of your animals do not violate your standards, or, supposed standards, the ones you proclaim in public.

Don’t worry I will not be buying anything from you or any of those other companies you just listed.