WC Gravids?

[wilomn]

I wonder if the conflict in the native habitat of leopard geckos might have something to do with their not being imported at the moment.

Also, one thing a lot, ok, ALL of the posters to date have missed, is that it isn't JUST us, here in the USA, that are involved in selling ball pythons for money. You people are awfully egocentric.

What about Ongo and Tongo and their families who, if these two brave snake hunters don't go catch snakes? What about them?

IF you don't want imports being sent in that's fine, don't buy them. Make loud noises and snub those who do. Make blanket statements that you won't buy from people who deal in imports whether they be gravid or not.

Of course, unless you're a hypocritical sack of crap, you KNOW that the snakes YOU have came from imports and/or gravid females. How come it's OK for YOU to have them but not the next wave of regius keepers? You've got yours so screw the newbs eh? Very cool of you.

And flippers, yes we're terrible. I say we because I buy and flip maybe a dozen or so balls every year. Sometimes more, sometimes less. I suppose guys buying corns by the hundred lot and garters by the thousand and flipping them are better somehow but I can't figure out how.

I do a lot of west coast shows and have NEVER been to one that was totally CBB no matter what the advertisements say. LLL, reptile depot, and a couple of other guys are ALWAYS there and they are FLIPPERS, importers, and I, personally, do NO business with them because of the WAY they treat their animals not their origins. Of course customer service also plays a part in my not doing business with them, but that is another issue.

If my choice were to feed my family by selling a legally collected animal or having them starve, you can bet your bottom dollar I'd be catching snakes.

Some of you have presented well thought out points of view, somewhat narrow perhaps, but the thought is evident.

Some of you are fence posts looking for cement.

Before you condemn someone for doing what you say you would not, be sure the origins of your animals do not violate your standards, or, supposed standards, the ones you proclaim in public.