Morph List

[ThyTempest]

I would say the ones at the "top" of my list are Pastel (easily number one, one of my fav morphs in general, and produces some killer combos and super), Spider ( another morph I like, and produces some of the best combos) and a tie between an Albino project and lucy's....probably from lesserxlesser.

[mainbutter]

a few doms:
pinstripe
spider

a few more codoms:
woma
enchi
vanilla

[ThyTempest]

a few doms:
pinstripe
spider

a few more codoms:
woma
enchi
vanilla

Spider is on the list, and as far as I am concerned, it is codom. I think the super form is lethal.

Pinstripes is one I just never liked, though I do like a few of their combo's...other than that, great adds to the list, thanks.

[JAMills]

Ok Market Value....

You could get a little bit more expensive codom male and hook him up with several normal females. You then are producing morphs your 1st season that you can SAVE THE ONES YOU LIKE, and sell the rest and re-invest. The other option with your offspring to consider is TRADES. I posted several animals for sale with the extra line " Trades considered " and have ended up with some beautiful snakes just from trades. Honestly I have only paid money for maybe 1/2 my snakes.

If you go with the other option of Codom X Codom you may create fewer snakes but of a higher market value. That in itself though has its draw backs to. The more expensive the snake the smaller the market. There are alot more people out there that can buy a 200-300 dollar snake than people who can buy a 1000-1500 dollar snake. Trade value on the snake would be where you would win with this option. You could turn around and trade a high dollar combo for several base morphs to expand your collection.

I hope I am not making it more difficult just giving you my own perspective on your topic.

[ThyTempest]

Ok Market Value....

You could get a little bit more expensive codom male and hook him up with several normal females. You then are producing morphs your 1st season that you can SAVE THE ONES YOU LIKE, and sell the rest and re-invest. The other option with your offspring to consider is TRADES. I posted several animals for sale with the extra line " Trades considered " and have ended up with some beautiful snakes just from trades. Honestly I have only paid money for maybe 1/2 my snakes.

If you go with the other option of Codom X Codom you may create fewer snakes but of a higher market value. That in itself though has its draw backs to. The more expensive the snake the smaller the market. There are alot more people out there that can buy a 200-300 dollar snake than people who can buy a 1000-1500 dollar snake. Trade value on the snake would be where you would win with this option. You could turn around and trade a high dollar combo for several base morphs to expand your collection.

I hope I am not making it more difficult just giving you my own perspective on your topic.

Meh....you are but you aren't....you are just saying the same things running through my head for past few days....in almost the exact same way I might add....

I think it is mostly going to come down to what deals I can find. If I can pick up a pastel and spider pair for a good price, will probably do that....if I find a steal on a bunch of norm females....probably go with that.

Biggest issue right now is when I can start producing. I don't want to have to buy all 08 or 09's next season and have to wait another 2 years before I start making a turn-around....by that point, the market value will crash a lot on the combo morphs, and drop at least a little for the lower end codoms.

I wish I could find some ready to breed next season for a good price, that is what my main hope is.

[JAMills]

I would say the ones at the "top" of my list are Pastel (easily number one, one of my fav morphs in general, and produces some killer combos and super), Spider ( another morph I like, and produces some of the best combos) and a tie between an Albino project and lucy's....probably from lesserxlesser.

Pastel and Spider
Great starter morphs for breeding project
Relatively inexpensive compared to other morphs but GREAT combo potential
Pastels are used in so many combos It is hard to keep track
Spiders just look at all the different kinds of Bees

I actually have a few Pastels and Spiders in the works already this season. If all goes well ( and it is looking good so far ) I should have 4 clutches of each.

[ThyTempest]

Pastel and Spider
Great starter morphs for breeding project
Relatively inexpensive compared to other morphs but GREAT combo potential
Pastels are used in so many combos It is hard to keep track
Spiders just look at all the different kinds of Bees

I actually have a few Pastels and Spiders in the works already this season. If all goes well ( and it is looking good so far ) I should have 4 clutches of each.

I think I am pretty well decided now that these would be my top two picks for codom morphs....cost effectiveness and my overall desire to have them along with killer combos and utility is great.

Could you pm me some info on your clutches in the making, if you are selling and able to ship that is.

[Jerhart]

I wouldn't worry about what the market values are one the snakes. Or worry about what your turn around will be...you cant predict the market.

I would just get the snake which attracts YOU the most and go from there. If you are doing this for money...you could be setting yourself up for a disappointment...with 1.1 BP's, that's a hobby. Do it for the love of the hobby. Just my opinion tho.

[JAMills]

Meh....you are but you aren't....you are just saying the same things running through my head for past few days....in almost the exact same way I might add....

I think it is mostly going to come down to what deals I can find. If I can pick up a pastel and spider pair for a good price, will probably do that....if I find a steal on a bunch of norm females....probably go with that.

Biggest issue right now is when I can start producing. I don't want to have to buy all 08 or 09's next season and have to wait another 2 years before I start making a turn-around....by that point, the market value will crash a lot on the combo morphs, and drop at least a little for the lower end codoms.

I wish I could find some ready to breed next season for a good price, that is what my main hope is.

Get your self an '07 or Early '08 male Codom with some size to him....

Big normal females - Tips to find them cheap

1. your local pet shops.... The shops I buy feeders from all know me and I told them I am always looking for large normal females and gave them my phone #. I have got 7 or 8 breeding size females for under $50 each 2 of them I actually got for free
2. Craigslist.com - There are always people on there getting rid of snakes

[ThyTempest]

Craigslist is a good tip....my local pet shop considers themselves elite....their last sub-adult bp...probably 1200 grams or so, was 200. I can ask, but I am not too hopeful there.

I am definitely in this more for the hobby than for making money...if anything, it would just be nice to produce enough to take the sting out of the wallet to support the hobby. If I make some money, great, but if not, I still get to expand my collection and upgrade my stuff. That is really my goal here, not turning a profit.