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Re: Help!!!!
no heat lamps, just a UTH that sits around 90-95.
Steffen, pronounced with f's, not v's
1.0 Normal BP, Oakley; 0.1 Normal BP, Hissy Fit; 1.0 Savannah Monitor, Abraxas, RIP 2-1-09; 0.0.1 Pacman Frog, Twoey; 1.0 BCI/BCC Cross, Quetzalcoatl "Q"; 0.0.1 Crestie - Flametail; 0.0.1 Crestie - Nuala; 0.1 Emp Scorpion - Black Arachnia; 0.1 ATB - Cortana; 0.0.1 Savvy - Lohe; 0.1 Colombian RTB, Queen Zida; 1.0 Common Boa; 0.0.1 Beardie
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Re: Help!!!!
ignore my post, I see there is no lamp....
I do wonder where that spot on his neck you said you saw came from....?
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Re: Help!!!!
I have a thermometer with a probe on the bottom glass.
Steffen, pronounced with f's, not v's
1.0 Normal BP, Oakley; 0.1 Normal BP, Hissy Fit; 1.0 Savannah Monitor, Abraxas, RIP 2-1-09; 0.0.1 Pacman Frog, Twoey; 1.0 BCI/BCC Cross, Quetzalcoatl "Q"; 0.0.1 Crestie - Flametail; 0.0.1 Crestie - Nuala; 0.1 Emp Scorpion - Black Arachnia; 0.1 ATB - Cortana; 0.0.1 Savvy - Lohe; 0.1 Colombian RTB, Queen Zida; 1.0 Common Boa; 0.0.1 Beardie
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Re: Help!!!!
 Originally Posted by snakelover88
If they seem jumpy they should be handled as little as possible until they have completed their shed, and if fed should only be offered small meals. This prevents a large meal from stretching out the delicate new skin and causing injury.
http://snaketracks.com/forum/viewtop...49e2b3d6df8fac
personally, i think that information is outdated and a load of bull. The new skin is there to fit the now larger snake, and is the whole reason why they shed. Within 30 min-1 hr the scales are dry, with maybe a little bit of their natural oil that seperates the old skin from the new still on them. I feed all 6 of my BP's their normal sized meals (now all small small rats) before, during (in deep blue, not during the actual peeling), and after sheds and I've never had a problem like this.
edit: also, the link provides a caresheet for kenyan sand boas, which is in no way relative to care for Ball Pythons.
Last edited by Purrrfect9; 01-12-2009 at 01:38 PM.
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BPnet Veteran
Re: Help!!!!
So can we rule out the eating thing?
Steffen, pronounced with f's, not v's
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Re: Help!!!!
 Originally Posted by Purrrfect9
personally, i think that information is outdated and a load of bull. The new skin is there to fit the now larger snake, and is the whole reason why they shed. Within 30 min-1 hr the scales are dry, with maybe a little bit of their natural oil that seperates the old skin from the new still on them. I feed all 6 of my BP's their normal sized meals (now all small small rats) before, during (in deep blue, not during the actual peeling), and after sheds and I've never had a problem like this.
Honestly, I've never heard of this. I've fed when they are in blue ( I feed F/T, so if they are hungry, they eat), and right after sheds.
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Re: Help!!!!
 Originally Posted by Little B-Py
I have to assist feed him because he won't eat by striking.
Not all snakes have a hard, striking feeding response. Some sort of just pick it up with their mouths and swallow. I'd double check all your husbandry with the care sheets on this site if you're assist feeding him every time because he wont eat himself. Is there another issue he has? was he a premature hatchling? If the husbandry and enclosure is correct, you most likely won't have to assist feed. I'd also consult a breeder about assist feeding techniques and when to implement them since doing it incorrectly can harm your snake.
Perhaps someone with experience on this topic can step in.
As for your original issue in the post, he may have cut himself on something in his enclosure. As with any animal and any vet, if you don't like the vets response to your situation, get a second opinion pronto. For the meanwhile, place him in as sterile of an environment as possible -- paper towel substrate, two clean hides and a water dish that you clean often.
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Re: Help!!!!
I trust this vet's opinion because he deals with snakes often. The only thing on the care sheet that isn't totally correct is his cold side temps because we live in a cold house right now. I'm also not sure where he would have injured himself because I didn't see anything until he was done feeding.
Steffen, pronounced with f's, not v's
1.0 Normal BP, Oakley; 0.1 Normal BP, Hissy Fit; 1.0 Savannah Monitor, Abraxas, RIP 2-1-09; 0.0.1 Pacman Frog, Twoey; 1.0 BCI/BCC Cross, Quetzalcoatl "Q"; 0.0.1 Crestie - Flametail; 0.0.1 Crestie - Nuala; 0.1 Emp Scorpion - Black Arachnia; 0.1 ATB - Cortana; 0.0.1 Savvy - Lohe; 0.1 Colombian RTB, Queen Zida; 1.0 Common Boa; 0.0.1 Beardie
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