granite questions

[AjaxTrippy]

Hey guys, was looking for a little info on granites; first of all, what are 08s going for, I can't seem to find any anywhere, almost every breeder (major or basement) seems to have at least one on their collection page but no one has any for sale, which leads me to my second question, are a lot of people still trying to prove theirs out, like finding true genetic blackbacks or are people just holding them back and dumping them into other projects, thanx in advance.

[JLC]

Wish I could answer your questions about the specific market for granites...but I don't know much about it. I did wonder though...if you came to your conclusion about breeders not having any for sale through looking at their websites? It's possible that there just aren't many folks working with them to sell....but it's also just as likely that most breeders don't keep their "available" lists updated on their websites...or they just put in the work to list the most popular animals and don't bother inputting data for every baby they may have hatched. If you see a breeder with a granite listed in their collection, I would definitely call them (or e-mail) and see if they had any hatchlings available or coming soon.

[sg1trogdor]

Email Ralph Davis he has everything im am pretty sure he has some. He just has way too many to list.

[Nagini88]

mine isnt proven or anything, but I bought her for $30 as a normal back in 07 at the reptile show. she has the granite markers though

[hawaiianice99]

nagini88, looks like a normal to me. granites have alot more speckeling that extends down the entire sides, and the price tag is a flag for a normal.

[Nagini88]

I looked up on the guide and it has all the markings of a granite and I've had numorous people peg her as one. head blush, speckled pattern, neck break. The seller I got her from doesnt breed ball pythons and didnt now anything about them

[Mike Cavanaugh]

nagini88, looks like a normal to me. granites have alot more speckeling that extends down the entire sides, and the price tag is a flag for a normal.

No, I would say that it is a granite.

[hawaiianice99]

here is a granite. see the difference in darkness and speckeling. nagini has a normal.

http://www.ralphdavisreptiles.com/im...ite_10-alt.jpg

[Nagini88]

just because a piebald has no white doesnt mean its not a piebald, I've seen one that had no white on kingsnake one time, but it had the pattern, the intensity of a marking doesnt make or break a snake. and like I said mine isnt proven

[AjBalls]

I remember one guy selling genetic granites for some $500 on fauna a couple months back.