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    Re: What do you think of my new 08 bumblebee?

    He's an absolutely terrible Bee! As such, you should have him shipped to me so you don't have to see such a thing.. He's a gorgeous snake, congrats!

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    Re: What do you think of my new 08 bumblebee?

    Thanks! Lateralus_Love I will get the snake bag out and should have him to u in time for Xmas!

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    Re: What do you think of my new 08 bumblebee?

    Quote Originally Posted by scotty99 View Post
    ... the head wobble thing nearly stopped me getting the bee...
    What's that mean?
    - Dave Harms - www.wax32.com | Pinstripe, Yellow Belly, Sulfur, Cinnamon ph G-Stripe, Pastel het Hypo | Pastel, Fire, Albino, Mojave, Lesser Platinum ph G-Stripe, Pastel ph G-Stripe, het G-Stripe, het Hypo, het Piebald, Pastel Yellowbelly

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    Re: What do you think of my new 08 bumblebee?

    Quote Originally Posted by scotty99 View Post
    Thanks! Lateralus_Love I will get the snake bag out and should have him to u in time for Xmas!
    Fantastic! I would love to spare you the pain of this creature and endure it myself.

    Ball Pythons:
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    Re: What do you think of my new 08 bumblebee?

    amazing lookin snake
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    Re: What do you think of my new 08 bumblebee?

    Well he nailed me on Xmas eve. My fault of course. I had cleaned his cage out the day before, but i could still smell a trace of faeces, he was 3/4 in his exo terra cave with his head out resting on top so I lifted the front of the cave up to see if he had been to the toilet in there...next ...bam, water bowl and cave went flying. He had doubled back and come under the cave and locked on to my finger in a split second. I had fed my norm bp the night before, so must of still had traces of "Rat flavour" on my hands, even though i had washed them several times.

    I don't know who was more suprised me or him when he realised that it wasnt a rat, first time i have been bitten ...the feeding response from this little bee is quite strong, and his hunting skills are pretty good..a bit too good!!

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    Re: What do you think of my new 08 bumblebee?

    Vurry Nice! Beautiful bumblebee!

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    Re: What do you think of my new 08 bumblebee?

    very nice colors and pattern...congrats!

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    Re: What do you think of my new 08 bumblebee?

    Great looking bumblebee and congrats on your first tag. Those're always the best!
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    Re: What do you think of my new 08 bumblebee?

    Quote Originally Posted by wax32 View Post
    What's that mean?
    No sure I can answer your question correctly, but I came across an article regarding "Wobbles" on spider not sure this is related tho. I cut and paste the article from ralphdavisreptiles.com, someone might correct me if the information I shared is incorrect.

    "As of 2005 there have been several occurrences of breeders noticing that some of their Spiders do "weird things".........these weird things include head shaking when nervous or excited, quivering and in the worst case, sever locomotion problems .........I myself have noticed this to some degree in every Spider ball or Spider cross that I have in my own collection. Spiders that I have produced myself, bought or traded for have all done the "wobble". I picked up a 400 gram female Spider from a breeder, she was perfect in every way............a few months went by and she became the worst case of locomotion problems I have ever seen in my collection of Spiders.

    Is this something that "comes and goes"?.............another case for me was a pair of Bumble Bees that I got from the same breeder............buth the male and the female had the "wobbles" when they arrived.......they eat and seem to be healthy, but they do "weird things".........

    NERD says that he is aware of this and that it is "part of the spider trait".

    I love the Spider mutation and think that it makes some of the best combos around.........the problem is the "wobble"............it's not predictable and seems to be able to "pop up" when ever it wants to. This issue could bring down a world of hurt on breeders producing and selling "perfect Spiders" only to have the customer not satisfied later on "if" the Spider were to start with the "weird stuff".........

    All we do is out cross the Spider to normal females............the trait couldn't be out crossed anymore...........so out crossing does not seem to be the "fix"...............is there even a "fix"?

    I would be crushed to take the time and produce a "Lavender Albino Spider" only to have it eventually do "weird things".......

    I place no blame on NERD at all..............I'm just writing down the facts that I know and have experienced with my own Spider balls....as have many others in the biz.

    I'd say for now that it is "there" and that there is probably nothing we can do to make it better aside from not breeding Spiders that do "weird things"...........and that will probably be to extreme of a tactic for most.

    To date ( 05 ) there is no talk of a Super Spider..........maybe more Spider x Spider breedings is the answer to fixing the problems? ( RDR blurp )"

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