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Base Mutations
I’m still trying to learn all the mutations in Ball Pythons, here’s my list so far:
Recessive traits:
Albino
Axanthic
Carmel Albino
Clown
Flame Hypo
G1 Hypo (Is this the same thing as Ghost?)
Genetic Strip
Ghost
Lavender Albino
Piebald
Co-Dominate traits:
Black Head / Super Black Head
Black Pastel / Unsure of the super form’s names
Butter / Blue-Eyed Lucy
Chocolate / Super Chocolate
Cinnamon / Super Cinnamon
Enchi / Super Enchi
Fire / Black-Eyed Lucy
Granite / Unsure of super form’s name
Het Red Axanthic / Red Axanthic (I’ve only seen Het Red Axanthic, and am therefore assuming it’s co-dominate, would love to see some pics of these)
Lesser Platinum / Blue-Eyed Lucy
Lori Ball / Super Lori Ball
Mocha / Super Mocha (Would love to see pics of these)
Mojave / Blue-Eyed Lucy
Pastel / Super Pastel
Phantom / Super Phantom
Russo het Leucisitc / Blue-Eyed Lucy
Sable / Super Sable
Spotnose / Power Ball (would love to see pics of these as well)
Vanilla / Super Vanilla
Woma / Pearl (Pearls are a weak gene)
Yellow Belly / Ivory
Dominate traits:
Calico
Champagne
Coral Glow
Pinstripe
Platty Daddy
Spider
Different allele forms depending on linage:
Desert Ghost. Dominate or recessive.
Genetic Banded
Not Proven Genetic Yet:
Bengal
Black Patternless (Would love to see pics)
Burgundy (Would love to see pics)
Burgundy Albino (Would love to see pics)
Circus (Would love to see pics)
Inferno
IMG (Would love to see pics)
Jungle
Neo (Would love to see pics)
Mint Pearl (Would love to see pics)
Patternless
Paragon (Would love to see pics)
Sunset (Would love to see pics)
Viper (Would love to see pics)
Which ones am I missing? If you have pics of the ones I’m missing if you could post those pics, that’d be great. Also, if I have mutations mislabeled (co-dom, dom, recessive) please correct that, or any other mistake you might find.
Thanks, Nick
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Re: Base Mutations
If you want to learn about all the morphs out there you should check out the Book "Designer Morphs" and "Pythons of the Wolrd, Vol 2". These books have tons of information and includes great pictures as well.
http://www.designermorphs.com
or
http://www.vpi.com/
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Re: Base Mutations
http://www.debscaptivebredballpython...tent.asp?cid=7
Thats a pretty comprehensive list and shows the breeding possibilities within each... Unfortunately no pics but still has a lot of useful info
Thanks!
Sam (and George)
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Re: Base Mutations
Coral Glow is a combo resessive its hypo and carmel albino
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Re: Base Mutations
Originally Posted by nixer
Coral Glow is a combo resessive its hypo and carmel albino
Correct me if I'm wrong but a Carmel Glow not a Coral Glow is a Ghost x Carmel Albino?
Carmel Glow: http://www.newenglandreptile.com/ner...ll-python.html
Coral Glow: http://www.newenglandreptile.com/ner...ll-python.html
I know a Lavender Albino is recessive, but the Coral Glow almost looks like the Super Form of a Lavender Albino.
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Re: Base Mutations
Originally Posted by Mischke
oops i thought you were talking about the other
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Re: Base Mutations
Originally Posted by Mischke
coral glow is supposed to be the same thing as a banana
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Re: Base Mutations
Is G1 hypo the same thing as ghost? Also what does “G” in G1 stand for?
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Re: Base Mutations
Just plain "hypo" is the same as "ghost" but I believe the G1 Hypo is another recessive line that Graziani proved from imports that looks a lot like ghost but isn't compatible so he gave it a new name.
As far as Dominant I think only pinstripe has been proven so far. For the others I think this is the status:
Calico – Wasn’t a homozygous produced this year (so technically not proven out to be homozygous through breeding yet) and it was more extreme than the hets? If so then calico would be like pastel and co-dominant.
Champagne - Don't think the females were old enough yet to put this one to the test. So we know it's some type of dominant but might be the co-dominant type rather than completely dominant.
Coral Glow - Again, at least the public doesn't know yet if a homozygous banana/coral glow/white smoke has even been attempted yet.
Platty Daddy – It sure looks like this is a combo in the blue eyed leucistic complex like karma or crystal or a mojave lesser leucistic. Platy appears to be one lesser mutant version and one hidden mutant version of the same gene.
Spider - No public proven homozygous spider close to 20 years after the founder was imported so it's looking like this could be homozygous lethal which would technically be co-dominant as the homozygous would be different than the mutant het.
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Re: Base Mutations
Originally Posted by RandyRemington
Just plain "hypo" is the same as "ghost" but I believe the G1 Hypo is another recessive line that Graziani proved from imports that looks a lot like ghost but isn't compatible so he gave it a new name.
As far as Dominant I think only pinstripe has been proven so far. For the others I think this is the status:
Calico – Wasn’t a homozygous produced this year (so technically not proven out to be homozygous through breeding yet) and it was more extreme than the hets? If so then calico would be like pastel and co-dominant.
Champagne - Don't think the females were old enough yet to put this one to the test. So we know it's some type of dominant but might be the co-dominant type rather than completely dominant.
Coral Glow - Again, at least the public doesn't know yet if a homozygous banana/coral glow/white smoke has even been attempted yet.
Platty Daddy – It sure looks like this is a combo in the blue eyed leucistic complex like karma or crystal or a mojave lesser leucistic. Platy appears to be one lesser mutant version and one hidden mutant version of the same gene.
Spider - No public proven homozygous spider close to 20 years after the founder was imported so it's looking like this could be homozygous lethal which would technically be co-dominant as the homozygous would be different than the mutant het.
Thanks for the information! I know on the NERD site they had most of the dominate mutations listed as dominate with a TBD besides it, so i figured if they where going to list it as Dominate instead of Co-Dom, there must have been some kind of discernment that made them do so. Guess not...
Does anybody have pics of Het Red Axanthic or Red Axanthic, if Red Axanthic even exist?
Thanks, Nick
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