mindibun I didn't put the pvc pipe in there my fil did and I had a HUGE fight with that man today about it ... I already had a hide in there!! he just grrrrr ... the man is UGH!!! I can't I just can't get into it! I told him WHEN that poor snake comes out that pipe is GONE he YELLED at me and told me he needed somewhere to hide ... I guess he thinks the half log thing isn't good enough!! AND I just had to put him in his place over PLANTING live plants in there with POTTING SOIL!!! OMG he thinks I am CRAZY for saying NO!!