im guessing you got those from linda and mike(great ppl local to me)

i had some of those they never really took off you need to keep them warm and somewhat humid.

my place was too dry and they have just a little bit of an odor but its not real bad. they do flutter and do not climb glass but the babies can climb alot better than the adults. sorry i dont remember the actual name of them. i got rid of mine because i would wakeup and check them 2-3 times a night to make sure i closed the lid!

i didnt go to the show. i woke up late and it was snowing so i just sayed home. how was the turnout?