That is one thing I do not miss about hanging around vegans... all the nit picky nonsense. If it comes from an animal, it is not vegan. And the "shades" of vegetarianism (lacto, pollo, cuckoo)... so tiresome and tedious.
Gelatin that comes from an animal, by product or not, is not vegan. Same with cheeses that contain enzymes that are external to milk... etc. etc. etc.
If you drink milk... not a vegan... eat eggs... not a vegan... blah blah blah. And vegetarians that eat meat and consume eggs and milk products... whatever. If someone consumes any animal products I do not consider that person a vegetarian. Regardless of the language it is cloaked in.
Either you are or you aren't. It is the equiv of me stating that I have been a vegan since noon.
And before someone corrects me... vegan/vegetarian it is the same to me. Either you are or your aren't.
Bruce