Quote Originally Posted by EmberBall View Post
Rehashing the whole naming scenario has gotten old, but if you do a search, you can probably find the thread where I spelled it out. You can have your opinions on how I should have handled MY project, but what is done is done, over with 3 years ago. Do you honestly think saying the same thing over and over and over and over and over is going to change anything. Some of you don't think I should have named it, but you also don't know the whole story, which, has been written down a few times, and is a long story, and don't feel the need to repeat everything I have said on one thread, just because another thread pops up, and asks the same questions. If those of you who don't feel there should be a separation between any of the Het Black Eyed Lucies, when YOU get your own line, feel free to call it a Fire.

Using an albino is a weak arguement, obviously an Albino is an Albino, BUT, what if someone assumed the Lavender was just an Albino, and never made the separation? So, let's take the Pied, if I hatched out a Pied, from some low white ringer looking Pet Store animal, I would have called it a Pied.

It is not so easy when it comes to YB's (hence the Goblin), Cinns and Black Pastels, Vanillas (yup, two Vanilla lines, two different names), because as new animals, they are not easy to identify 100%, like the Pied. Even though the Ember's looked similar to a Fire, with a head pattern similar, but WAY more yellow, there was no way to call them a Fire before they proved out with a Super. If you think a small time breeder is going to have a 3-5 year project, and keep back EVERY animal until it is proven out completly, just to satisfy a handful of bashers, you are kidding yourself. It has been said over and over again, what if no Spider was ever sold before a Super was proven or disproven? Woud anyone have a Spider even now, other than Kevin? I cannot think of a single morph that was kept back until a Super was proven.

sorry if i was asking questions you have already answered . as you probably noticed from my post count , and as i have stated above, i am new to the world of balls and was only saying what i thought . I didnt mean to upset you all , i just type as i see it . Maybe the albino was a poor example but i think it offers an example that if 1 albino looks like another(and a sulphur looks like a fire-to me anyways) then its and albino (as the sulphur apears to me to be a fire) . sory if you think otherwise and i will have a look for your previous thread so that i can hopefully understand the differences . this is just how i see it . Maybe i am wrong for sure but its how i see the snakes from the pics . I have fires myself that appear very different from each other and hence why i stated the gene is variable . These 2 animals are from the same fire sire to 2 different females . The one is a cb female and the other is a wc female . The babies look different but are still fires . Can i assume otherwise and call them another name cos the female was WC and maybe she has a hidden gene that has added to the fire and created a new morph . no its a fire , just one that has more yellow than the other .